Seat Counters - 2024/25

If people cannot be arsed what can you do, the biggest issue has been the huge disconnect between club and fans, the club have used success to completely suck the joy and the money out of much of the fanbase, i don't care that we turn over 712 million, i would sooner turn over 10 million less and have a fanbase completely engaged in the club, a fanbase where everyone can afford home games and a fanbase that would be bouncing to go down to Wembley no matter what time of day. I think we have a small band of absolutely fanatical fans, and it's shrinking and a huge chunk of very apathetic fans, i honestly think we have become like a Fulham of the North, if someone had told me years ago City would be completely outnumbered by Nottingham Forest at Wembley i would have thought they were mad.
If we include Sunday, we've outnumbered Forest at Wembley by about 915,000 to 80,000 over the last few years mate, with our 30 visits and their 2 trips (Sunday & Play-off Final 2022)....so they can fuck right off.

I prefer to look at it this way - If we make the final we'll be pushing 1,000,000 City fans following the Blues to Wembley since our famous victory against the rags in April 2011.

Nearly ONE MILLION. Astounding support that can be matched by no-one in the modern era. Crazy numbers.

Think about that for one moment and maybe reassess your Fulham comparison.

Up the fucking Blues.
 
I’ve just bought an adult and junior for £30 and £20 respectively. I didn’t actually know there were tickets on sale at this price.

I’d much prefer to be on the lower tier and not near the blocks of empty seats, but adding up fuel and food it would have been close to £250 for the day out.

That’s the real reason people aren’t going @fathellensbellend, not because they can’t be arsed.
 
I stick to what the evidence says not what people want to believe.

The official attendance was 52,192 but we there were clearly thousands of empty seats.

I thought the official attendance represents tickets sold but not bums on seats. If as was said above that the official attendance is tickets sold plus complimentaries then that supports my argument that there were large numbers of season ticket returns. It does not support the argument that City received thousands of tickets back from ticket agencies. If they did then the official attendance would be much lower.

I am not going to post on this forum any more because as you say there is no dialogue, only abuse.
I make you largely right. The ticket agencies buy seats but I don't think they return them. There were clearly loads of non attending season ticket holders because of the way the seats were scattered around rather than being in clumps at the back. Usually these seats sell via the seat exchange but in this case there were far more returns than sales.
 
Club should have laid on free coach travel. 300 coaches would cost less than £0.5M which the club can easily afford.
Or better still if the first team squad gave up two days wages each to subsidise the cost of tickets then I reckon each ticket would have cost at least 50% less making it far more affordable in the first place.
 
It’s a great turn out, as said before 28th time there in 14 years and we are again taking nearly 30k. Only Liverpool or United would do similar…shitty clubs like villa that that knobhead on talkSPORT follow would be lucky to take 15k in similar circumstances
Good shout and that Knobhead on talkshit failed to mention not many years ago city played villa at villa park in a league cup fixture and guess what? There were more city fans in attendance than villa fans on their home ground. Can’t remember which season but without looking it up I’m pretty sure we dicked them
 
I make you largely right. The ticket agencies buy seats but I don't think they return them. There were clearly loads of non attending season ticket holders because of the way the seats were scattered around rather than being in clumps at the back. Usually these seats sell via the seat exchange but in this case there were far more returns than sales.

These clumps at the back?
 

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28k is decent considering how many times we've played there in the last 15 years although it's not gonna look great on the telly with the blocks we haven't sold. Scousers and the rags are the only clubs who would constantly sell out Wembley no matter how many times they got there I think
 
These clumps at the back?
Yes, those clumps mainly represent the 1000 or so that didn't sell in the first place for this game. The difference between capacity and released attendance. When the stadium didn't used to sell out before the takeover these empty clumps were much bigger and also the front couple of rows, were usually the last to sell.
 
If people cannot be arsed what can you do, the biggest issue has been the huge disconnect between club and fans, the club have used success to completely suck the joy and the money out of much of the fanbase, i don't care that we turn over 712 million, i would sooner turn over 10 million less and have a fanbase completely engaged in the club, a fanbase where everyone can afford home games and a fanbase that would be bouncing to go down to Wembley no matter what time of day. I think we have a small band of absolutely fanatical fans, and it's shrinking and a huge chunk of very apathetic fans, i honestly think we have become like a Fulham of the North, if someone had told me years ago City would be completely outnumbered by Nottingham Forest at Wembley i would have thought they were mad.
I undestand your frustrations mate and you make many valid points but to say we've become like the Fulham of the north is frankly ridiculous, no other set of fans has come anywhere near our visits to Wembley over the last decade or so and this will be our 7th visit in just 2 years, cut the fanbase some slack will you
 
Good shout and that Knobhead on talkshit failed to mention not many years ago city played villa at villa park in a league cup fixture and guess what? There were more city fans in attendance than villa fans on their home ground. Can’t remember which season but without looking it up I’m pretty sure we dicked them
Perhaps this one, we had about 6,000, you can see from the replays of the City goal how empty the rest of the ground was.

 
Same thing happened in 2016, both in the FA Cup

It was 2016 that was the one. 23k they got that day. We dicked them 4-0.

Like plenty of other clubs as soon as the going gets tough they drop like flies. They've got a considerable fan base outside of Brum because of their success in the 80s. Those fans don't bother until things are rosy.

We've got a decent hardcore fanbase, better than the vast majority of other clubs in the country. The dippers and rags have a number of tourists who turn up week in week out and then thousands around the country who would snap up tickets if they'd got to 30 Wembley games in 14 years and season ticket holders didn't fancy the expense.

The number of times at Wembley is one factor, so too is the ongoing dispute with the club in general over prices and tickets. The club are helping drive this apathy that many feel. I do feel like someone in the club should have been wise to how tough this would be to sell doing it the way they did. They should have put on free travel and incentivised it someway or another. But the FA Cup whilst being prestigious offers fuck all prize money so they probably didn't see it worth the investment.
 
I undestand your frustrations mate and you make many valid points but to say we've become like the Fulham of the north is frankly ridiculous, no other set of fans has come anywhere near our visits to Wembley over the last decade or so and this will be our 7th visit in just 2 years, cut the fanbase some slack will you

City used to have a fanatical following, getting to the cup final meant something, something has been lost along the way
 
So anyone not going isn't a "supporter"...get to fuck. You're whinging about no shows more than any other fucker is whinging about their perfectly valid reasons for not going.

..and, before you ask...I'm not going either.

Get over yourself FFS.
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It was 2016 that was the one. 23k they got that day. We dicked them 4-0.

Like plenty of other clubs as soon as the going gets tough they drop like flies. They've got a considerable fan base outside of Brum because of their success in the 80s. Those fans don't bother until things are rosy.

We've got a decent hardcore fanbase, better than the vast majority of other clubs in the country. The dippers and rags have a number of tourists who turn up week in week out and then thousands around the country who would snap up tickets if they'd got to 30 Wembley games in 14 years and season ticket holders didn't fancy the expense.

The number of times at Wembley is one factor, so too is the ongoing dispute with the club in general over prices and tickets. The club are helping drive this apathy that many feel. I do feel like someone in the club should have been wise to how tough this would be to sell doing it the way they did. They should have put on free travel and incentivised it someway or another. But the FA Cup whilst being prestigious offers fuck all prize money so they probably didn't see it worth the investment.
Should have subsidised each ticket by a tenner, total cost £300k, a good players wages for a week. Fucking fa didn’t even give concessions for kids and oaps, they are the real cunts
 
So anyone not going isn't a "supporter"...get to fuck. You're whinging about no shows more than any other fucker is whinging about their perfectly valid reasons for not going.

..and, before you ask...I'm not going either.

Get over yourself FFS.
You ok pal? Any update on your Brentford issue?
 
City used to have a fanatical following, getting to the cup final meant something, something has been lost along the way
Nothing has been lost, but expectation levels obviously change with the incredible success we've had on the pitch.

We went 22 years between Gillingham and United in 2011. A 22 year wait to get to Wembley, ended by a huge game against your biggest rivals in an opportunity to end a 35 year trophy drout is completely uncomparable to a 7th FA cup semi final on the bounce against Nottingham Forest.

If Newcastle eventually end up similar to us, their fanbase will be exactly the same.

Fundamentally, football fans at all clubs are pretty similar. If we go a few years without a trip to wembley, the next appearance will be much harder to acquire tickets for.
 
Should have subsidised each ticket by a tenner, total cost £300k, a good players wages for a week. Fucking fa didn’t even give concessions for kids and oaps, they are the real cunts
It was a tenner less for kids.

Club could have easily done something more though.

Have Forest sold out?

I think anywhere around 30k is good going all things considered. Would have been better to sell them all, but this is the semi final. The other three teams in the cup it will feel like a final for so it's unsurprising they've shifted more.

They can see how they get on in 7 years time if they make so many in a row.
 

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