Seat Counters 25/26

Barcelona often have 10s of thousands unsold.
This is the thing. We could have a stadium that holds 30,000 fill it and have an enviable waiting list = great fans

60,000 95% full = Look at those empty seats they have no fans!

Just not worth arguing about. It’s only an issue with rivals when we win everything and they are left to jump around after qualifying for Europe.

How many does Everton hold? Our owners are ambitious and have done a pretty good job so far.
 
This is the thing. We could have a stadium that holds 30,000 fill it and have an enviable waiting list = great fans

60,000 95% full = Look at those empty seats they have no fans!

Just not worth arguing about. It’s only an issue with rivals when we win everything and they are left to jump around after qualifying for Europe.

How many does Everton hold? Our owners are ambitious and have done a pretty good job so far.

If united get the 100,000, seater , imagine the outcry if they only got 88000 on a February night. Is not an argument is it really.
Apart from a stick to beat the best team in the last decade.
 
If united get the 100,000, seater , imagine the outcry if they only got 88000 on a February night. Is not an argument is it really.
Apart from a stick to beat the best team in the last decade.

I’ve supported City since 1986 and I’ve never heard anything previous to around 2012 of us having a lack of supporters. Suddenly the stick of not being successful to beat us with vanished and they had to desperately look for something else to slag us for.
 
Do we want to be like that though?

If tickets are affordable and accessible we wouldn’t have that issue. As we have done for plenty of games this season. All be it a smaller scale

Nobody wants tens of thousands unsold, but the bigger the Stadium the more potential there is for empty seats.
IF selling out is the aim, then keep the Stadium small.
If growth ,revenue, and continued success by investing that increased revenue is the aim, then our club is on that projectory.
 
Barcelona often have 10s of thousands unsold.
According to AI RM capacity is between 83-85k they only got 78k for Barca! CL games attracting (not surprisingly) the highest average of nearly 76k but no one over there cares or doesn’t have the courage to have a go at them for a lower capacity used percentage than City. It’s the stick to try and embarrass us with but as the saying goes it’s quality not quantity of your support that counts, Pep and the team wouldn’t have spent several minutes just watching us on Tuesday if that wasn’t so
 
The reason the last entrance for the aftershow party has been extended to 6pm is because they were worried it wouldn’t sell out otherwise.

The ticketing decision makers are consistently getting things wrong and it’s alarming.

This isn’t knocking our support, which is as good as any other. The issue is the ridiculous pricing and the even more ridiculous difficulties faced by people actually wanting to buy a ticket.

An example is our ticket site will always show as restricted sale unless you’re logged in. Why doesn’t it simply say buy tickets and then ask you to log in? Or showing as sold out weeks before a game, when it’s inevitable that thousands will soon become available on the ticket exchange. How many supporters take one look at a game showing as sold out and then don’t bother looking again?

Couldn’t even find a link for the aftershow tickets without having to log in first and then do a bit of searching. How can it be easier to buy tickets for Inter Milan in Hong Kong than it is to buy a ticket for the aftershow party?!

If correctly priced and without the ridiculous ticketing restrictions, we could easily sell out every game. That’s what frustrates the majority of us.

It should be fucking easy but we really don’t help ourselves at times.
 
I’ve supported City since 1986 and I’ve never heard anything previous to around 2012 of us having a lack of supporters. Suddenly the stick of not being successful to beat us with vanished and they had to desperately look for something else to slag us for.
Your correct its just a stick to beat us with;
i remember utd under fergie , rival fans looked for anything,prawn sandwich ect .
mostly its banter ,i accept that some is pure spite, that terry christmas guy for example is very bitter and jealous,best avoided
 
I’ve supported City since 1986 and I’ve never heard anything previous to around 2012 of us having a lack of supporters. Suddenly the stick of not being successful to beat us with vanished and they had to desperately look for something else to slag us for.
I've been going since 1988 and would regularly be told by some patronising plastic how great our support was considering how shit we were.
The same patronising plastics are now saying our fans are shit despite the fact our attendances are more than double they were when I first started going.
It seemed to start around 2014 when the wankers at the MUEN published a photo taken at a home game just after half time (when lots would either be having a piss or finishing their half time pint) with empty seats circled in red.
As it coincided with us overtaking the Rags on the pitch, it became their comfort blanket.
I'd rather listen to some bitter, jealous no nothing wanker bang on about empty seats after witnessing things they'll never see than be patronised by a pompous prick for sticking with my team because they're shit.
 
The reason the last entrance for the aftershow party has been extended to 6pm is because they were worried it wouldn’t sell out otherwise.

The ticketing decision makers are consistently getting things wrong and it’s alarming.

This isn’t knocking our support, which is as good as any other. The issue is the ridiculous pricing and the even more ridiculous difficulties faced by people actually wanting to buy a ticket.

An example is our ticket site will always show as restricted sale unless you’re logged in. Why doesn’t it simply say buy tickets and then ask you to log in? Or showing as sold out weeks before a game, when it’s inevitable that thousands will soon become available on the ticket exchange. How many supporters take one look at a game showing as sold out and then don’t bother looking again?

Couldn’t even find a link for the aftershow tickets without having to log in first and then do a bit of searching. How can it be easier to buy tickets for Inter Milan in Hong Kong than it is to buy a ticket for the aftershow party?!


If correctly priced and without the ridiculous ticketing restrictions, we could easily sell out every game. That’s what frustrates the majority of us.

It should be fucking easy but we really don’t help ourselves at times.
That is my concern, we just seem to go down the wrong road ticket wise so many times and then rethink when its clearly failing. Sure there is more to it from the City side ( probably thought the afterparty would sell out easily) but its so frustrating. I have 3 tickets for the afterparty but up until a couple of hours ago was thinking of sacking it off and doing the parade only due to the cost of drinks when waiting in there.

I have thought about applying for City Matters positions in the past but I don't think I would have the patience for it, take my hat off to those that do, must be a nightmare.
 
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Nobody wants tens of thousands unsold, but the bigger the Stadium the more potential there is for empty seats.
IF selling out is the aim, then keep the Stadium small.
If growth ,revenue, and continued success by investing that increased revenue is the aim, then our club is on that projectory.
Surely the club want want to sell out though? Or is it all about revenue? You can do both

As I said just make it affordable and we’ll probably sell out.
 
I’ve supported City since 1986 and I’ve never heard anything previous to around 2012 of us having a lack of supporters. Suddenly the stick of not being successful to beat us with vanished and they had to desperately look for something else to slag us for.
I love taking opposition fans to task over attendances as I am old enough to have been at some shit shows in their past. The list is endless.

I always tell them that City averaged 40k in the 6 years before the takeover, that after 35 years of fcuk all and our biggest rivals winning everything. How many clubs could have done that?
 
I’ve been following this thread with some confusion. I agree there are lots of flaws with our ticketing policy but the bare facts are:
- Villa game was sold out 53k months ago except for returns.
- 3.5k extra tickets sold in hours.
- Another 3.5k extra tickets sold out comfortably despite only being released a few days before the game
- Consequently the attendance will be best for 50yrs.
- in parallel the “After Party” has nearly sold out Europes biggest indoor arena

How are we “struggling” to sell tickets?
 
I’ve been following this thread with some confusion. I agree there are lots of flaws with our ticketing policy but the bare facts are:
- Villa game was sold out 53k months ago except for returns.
- 3.5k extra tickets sold in hours.
- Another 3.5k extra tickets sold out comfortably despite only being released a few days before the game
- Consequently the attendance will be best for 50yrs.
- in parallel the “After Party” has nearly sold out Europes biggest indoor arena

How are we “struggling” to sell tickets?
The game before this was not sold out.
 
Surely the club want want to sell out though? Or is it all about revenue? You can do both

As I said just make it affordable and we’ll probably sell out.

Would the club prefer selling out a 40000 stadium, with limited Corporate or sell 60000 in a 62000 Stadium with a range of seat offererings ?
There is a reason the Club have continued to expand the Stadium. They want the club to be a global success.
I too believe there needs to be affordable seats. The problem is what is affordable ?and also who are those tickets for?
When I experience half time toilets and spirals full of smoke and spilling pints, returning to seats 10 minutes after the restart and Wembley full of coked , pissed young kids, I am not convinced the club want to provide for that at reduced prices.
I read alot of simplistic views on here. I also read how rubbish the club is run, yet tomorrow I will say goodbye to a genius, a brilliant team. and do so in World class Stadium, at a fantastic Campus, someone , somewhere, perhaps our shit directors are doing something right.
I accept other opinions, my views are what I believe the club's vision is. I have spoken with people at the club in the last few years because of historical issues and offer a different perspective.
 
I love taking opposition fans to task over attendances as I am old enough to have been at some shit shows in their past. The list is endless.

I always tell them that City averaged 40k in the 6 years before the takeover, that after 35 years of fcuk all and our biggest rivals winning everything. How many clubs could have done that?
I looked it up once I think 2 & 3 years before the takeover we had a higher average attendance than liverpool,
its bonkers the way our support gets slagged off, I am sure in recent years some Forest, Palace & Southampton fans genuinely thought they were a bigger club than us because they might have sold there share of Wembley tickets quicker than us, completely forgetting the evidence of the last 80-100 years, As I Say Bonkers :-)
 
The game before this was not sold out.
True but marginal. 51,738 On a Weds night for a game rearranged at short notice 3 days before yet another trip to Wembley seems a decent effort to me. Maybe there were less than that actually in attendance (the reasons for that have been done to death) those were the tickets sold, which is really all the club is bothered about.
 

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