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Is it because few fans know the facts that posters like @Sheik Battle and Goal hold Liverpool up as a role model.

Their own fans are disgusted with the % of fans with ST.
I don’t hold them up as a role model mate. We should be doing be doing more and more cheap as chips seats for younger match going Mancunian fans. I was only commenting that £9 tickets was a good initiative and something similar we could be looking at on a wider basis especially to fill the extended NS.
 
I was in Hong Hong 88, spent one night in a famous bar called joe Bananas, a typhoon came in, and it remained open all night for safety reasons, allowed out at around 8.30am, wind was still very strong and had to try to walk home pissed and lost.
Similar, but not typhoon levels, happened to us in Kharkiv, first time we played Shaktar. There was a basement bar we found that served up decent local beer and steak. Worked out about £5 for a beer and a steak, ridiculously good value. 2nd night in there it pissed it down and the way out was under a foot of water. The owner said it would drain in a few hours but no worries, we'll stay open until it does...so laid back he was horizontal. Had the time of our lives necking beer and local vodka shots until the sun came up. The flood had subsided hours ago but no-one noticed. Blues and locals having a party and eating meat. Great people in Kharkiv, my heart bleeds for every single one of 'em.
 
I was supporting City in the 80's and 90's when we won nothing significant. In that time Utd's crowds went from 50,000 to 70,000 because they were successful. It's easy to support a football club when they are successful. This sad red bastard will be in block 105 today. You are an idiot.
80 s and 90 s were not 50 years that was my point great to be top of the league have a great Xmas "the idiot"please don't use a capital u when you describe that shower of shit
 
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I don’t hold them up as a role model mate. We should be doing be doing more and more cheap as chips seats for younger match going Mancunian fans. I was only commenting that £9 tickets was a good initiative and something similar we could be looking at on a wider basis especially to fill the extended NS.

No worries.
Logistically how would you allocate such tickets.
You would need to identify how many of these 9 quid tickets are available to young Liverpudlians to quantify it as a great system.
City often give free tickets to schools, and Cup match v exeter a fiver.
Hopefully the tickets for Youth in the North Stand will catch a few.
 
No worries.
Logistically how would you allocate such tickets.
You would need to identify how many of these 9 quid tickets are available to young Liverpudlians to quantify it as a great system.
City often give free tickets to schools, and Cup match v exeter a fiver.
Hopefully the tickets for Youth in the North Stand will catch a few.
Yes I agree these are good initiatives but it needs to be a more systemic long term strategy. However I’m not hopeful. PE investors are driven by increasing revenues and EBITA targets which will wipe out season tickets within the next 10 -15 years as Boards will not see them as commercially viable. You’ll probably agree that football is eating itself.
 
Yes I agree these are good initiatives but it needs to be a more systemic long term strategy. However I’m not hopeful. PE investors are driven by increasing revenues and EBITA targets which will wipe out season tickets within the next 10 -15 years as Boards will not see them as commercially viable. You’ll probably agree that football is eating itself.

I do believe ticket revenues should not be the priority.
Getting people to the ground early,and staying later is one way to increase the revenue, but our fans don't seem to like this , call these people tourists.
I do think Society is changing , just watching how empty the Stands are for a quarter of the game, whether the Premier League can be sustained I am not sure. I don't think prices can rise further without a tipping point for sure.

I do know that when I go for my half time wee, hundreds on the the spiral are having a ciggy, I thought they were 15 quid a packet, and the 30000 not in the Stands after half time are presumably
having a Pint at the price you would like to see as an entry fee.
 
I suppose the senior management at our club are striving for us to go the same way unfortunately.
Not at all, You can’t compare our club with the ownership at Liverpool. Liverpool FC are parasites who invest virtually nothing in their local community. The owners take as much money as possible back to the USA. Have you ever been to Liverpool? The LFC owners are despicable. Everton do lots for the local community.
 
Not at all, You can’t compare our club with the ownership at Liverpool. Liverpool FC are parasites who invest virtually nothing in their local community. The owners take as much money as possible back to the USA. Have you ever been to Liverpool? The LFC owners are despicable. Everton do lots for the local community.
Yes I agree. EFC are very active in the community. I suppose I’m linking my club with the general downward spiral of the game and maybe unfairly then.
 
80 s and 90 s were not 50 years that was my point great to be top of the league have a great Xmas "the idiot"please don't use a capital u when you describe that shower of shit
Know your enemy. Utd's current era ended with Ferguson in 2013. The Man Utd fans of that generation, likely saw Busby's sides, and Best, Law and Charlton. City have always been a major club but the size of our fanbase, and rival fanbases, reflects success and failure. City fans through the 80's and 90's were intensely loyal but we needed the takeover or we would have literally died.

There is no need to be so aggressive. You thought I was a red. I am not. There are loads of them posting on here pretending to be City so I know where you are coming from.
 
Not at all, You can’t compare our club with the ownership at Liverpool. Liverpool FC are parasites who invest virtually nothing in their local community. The owners take as much money as possible back to the USA. Have you ever been to Liverpool? The LFC owners are despicable. Everton do lots for the local community.
A lot of the American owned clubs are investment trusts seeking 'value'. Mansour has built City up for whatever reason, but regardless of the motive, we can see the huge change in the infrastructure of the club. It's entirely changed since 2008. As a City fan, this has been great. For Utd and Liverpool fans, it has been a nightmare, hence the political attempts to stop us in our tracks.
 
A lot of the American owned clubs are investment trusts seeking 'value'. Mansour has built City up for whatever reason, but regardless of the motive, we can see the huge change in the infrastructure of the club. It's entirely changed since 2008. As a City fan, this has been great. For Utd and Liverpool fans, it has been a nightmare, hence the political attempts to stop us in our tracks.

It has always confused me that American ownership of Premier League clubs has not been widely attacked. They do not want to adhere to English football values, they want to take money out of the Country, to Americanise our hierarchy.
I would have thought their would be resistance from fans, Media, pundits, the FA, and government, but no, they get a free pass.
United fans have tried,and failed, but apart from that nothing.
Yesterday we arrived at the Etihad at 12. We did a full perimeter if the ground checking on the developments. It is amazing, I don't think our own fans fully appreciate it.
We then went in the co op live, to watch the first half of Newcastle, great organisation, easy to get served(loud music was a concern for me) met some good FOC fans.
 
It has always confused me that American ownership of Premier League clubs has not been widely attacked. They do not want to adhere to English football values, they want to take money out of the Country, to Americanise our hierarchy.
I would have thought their would be resistance from fans, Media, pundits, the FA, and government, but no, they get a free pass.
United fans have tried,and failed, but apart from that nothing.
Yesterday we arrived at the Etihad at 12. We did a full perimeter if the ground checking on the developments. It is amazing, I don't think our own fans fully appreciate it.
We then went in the co op live, to watch the first half of Newcastle, great organisation, easy to get served(loud music was a concern for me) met some good FOC fans.
How much of our club is now American owned?
 
I do believe ticket revenues should not be the priority.
Getting people to the ground early,and staying later is one way to increase the revenue, but our fans don't seem to like this , call these people tourists.
I do think Society is changing , just watching how empty the Stands are for a quarter of the game, whether the Premier League can be sustained I am not sure. I don't think prices can rise further without a tipping point for sure.

I do know that when I go for my half time wee, hundreds on the the spiral are having a ciggy, I thought they were 15 quid a packet, and the 30000 not in the Stands after half time are presumably
having a Pint at the price you would like to see as an entry fee.
The big change in East Stand Upper are the huge queues for food from the tiny food outlets. I can't understand why people seemingly can't last two hours without stuffing themselves with gigantic portions of processed food and fizzy drinks. They are happy to miss 20 minutes of the match so they can accelerate their progress towards a lifetime of health problems. The feeding frenzy is almost as bad as the attempts to buy a pint of overpriced piss.
 
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The big change in East Stand Upper are the huge queues for food from the tiny food outlets. I can't understand why people seemingly can't last two hours without stuffing themselves with gigantic portions of processed food and fizzy drinks. They are happy to miss 20 minutes of the match so they can accelerate their progress towards a lifetime of health problems. The feeding frenzy is almost as bad as the attempts to buy a pint of overpriced piss.

One of my life rules is , I don't queue.
I was in 9320 yesterday, as I left at half timeto get to my seat to see the players return to the pitch, people were just joining the queue for food and drink.

The dad and son next to me left for half time at 36 minutes, missed the goal, returned after 2nd half ko, and left on 82 minutes. 120 quid his ticket for the game. He was a nice bloke but I just don't get it.
 
Know your enemy. Utd's current era ended with Ferguson in 2013. The Man Utd fans of that generation, likely saw Busby's sides, and Best, Law and Charlton. City have always been a major club but the size of our fanbase, and rival fanbases, reflects success and failure. City fans through the 80's and 90's were intensely loyal but we needed the takeover or we would have literally died.

There is no need to be so aggressive. You thought I was a red. I am not. There are loads of them posting on here pretending to be City so I know where you are coming from.
OK mate I apologise the journey we've had is "beyond dreams "
 
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One of my life rules is , I don't queue.
I was in 9320 yesterday, as I left at half timeto get to my seat to see the players return to the pitch, people were just joining the queue for food and drink.

The dad and son next to me left for half time at 36 minutes, missed the goal, returned after 2nd half ko, and left on 82 minutes. 120 quid his ticket for the game. He was a nice bloke but I just don't get it.
It is mostly younger people who seem unable to last a short time without eating junk food. I mean the match only lasts 90 minutes FFS.
 

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