Danny Hoekman
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This is probably out of order and make it of what you will, but fuck it I'll post it anyway, he was with his son trialiing at United this week.
Which causes inevitable unrest in the dressing room...Sun Jihai's ghost said:Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:Its his total contempt for 'us' the fans which is pissing me off.......... this has nothing to do with form, its his attitude and deliberate rocking the boat which is appalling. The reality is that he's too thick to realize what's going on around him and it will result in his demise and legacy at the club.
Not a bon jovi he'll get the money he wants, he just isn't worth it, he'll get his free by running down the contract and the 70k we were offering won't look so insulting.
This is all that matters. SWP and his old man can have shown thier true colours.To go trying to negotiate contacts in public while slagging the club off at this critical time of the season is inexcusable.
mackenzie said:Reminds me very much of Peter Barnes.
He got found out too.
LCBblue said:He and his Dad are proposing £70,000 per week so we believe.bluesimon said:hoiw much is he supposedly asking for? (or should we say, how much is his dad asking for)?
Grand Master Ram Rod said:Been one of our most effective players this season, going through a bad spell, still a quality player and definitely still has a future at the club.
hilts said:mackenzie said:Reminds me very much of Peter Barnes.
He got found out too.
i think peter barnes was a better player than swp
leighton said:Its simple to me since Mancini has come in his way he sets out the team is all about shape. SWP will work his balls off for you and help defending but City have been more reserved under Mancini unlike when Hughes was at the club. You do notice it more so if we are chasing a goal. SWP will be taken off for we say Johnson and he will be told before hand to get at the defender all the time. Its not only SWP this is affecting its Ireland as well and other attack minded players that we had at the club like Robi. I am slowly getting the feeling that none of the 3 mentioned have a future at the club and it pains me to say it as all 3 on form can win us games.
Not many of our midfield come near that mark either. Barry , De Jong , Zab have all had stinkers during there time in midfield yet they are picked ahead of more creative players. We need to find the right blend in the team which we dont have at times. Not to mention Vieria our central 2 of Barry and Vieria must of been the slowest midfield 2 playing this week. Against a quicker midfield 2 they would of struggled today on there own.Blue Hefner said:leighton said:Its simple to me since Mancini has come in his way he sets out the team is all about shape. SWP will work his balls off for you and help defending but City have been more reserved under Mancini unlike when Hughes was at the club. You do notice it more so if we are chasing a goal. SWP will be taken off for we say Johnson and he will be told before hand to get at the defender all the time. Its not only SWP this is affecting its Ireland as well and other attack minded players that we had at the club like Robi. I am slowly getting the feeling that none of the 3 mentioned have a future at the club and it pains me to say it as all 3 on form can win us games.
When was the last time this happened?
All 3 can also lose us matches through not staying in shape, not taking their chances and generally putting in inconsistant or just generally shit performances.
Look at Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal. Everyone of their players have at least 7or8 out of 10 performances each week. Robinho, Ireland and SWP don't come anywhere near that.
This.salfordtrueblue said:He's been very much a run of the mill squad player for me,although have to admit all the nonsense regarding a new contract has made me see him in a different light.He's ole man is the mouth piece but its up to SWP to tell him to shut up...and he hasnt.
leighton said:Not many of our midfield come near that mark either. Barry , De Jong , Zab have all had stinkers during there time in midfield yet they are picked ahead of more creative players. We need to find the right blend in the team which we dont have at times. Not to mention Vieria our central 2 of Barry and Vieria must of been the slowest midfield 2 playing this week. Against a quicker midfield 2 they would of struggled today on there own.Blue Hefner said:When was the last time this happened?
All 3 can also lose us matches through not staying in shape, not taking their chances and generally putting in inconsistant or just generally shit performances.
Look at Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal. Everyone of their players have at least 7or8 out of 10 performances each week. Robinho, Ireland and SWP don't come anywhere near that.
I have to disagree about that both players offer as much to the team as those playing. Yes SWP may well be coming to the end of his golden era were he was all out attack but he still has the speed he just needs to be a little bit more creative now. As for Ireland I think your way off the mark with him he has a lot to offer to the team and just needs a run of games playing football. His reading of the game is top and creative wise he is up there with the best at the club. Work rate last season he was second to none but saying that last season for most of it he knew his job and done it well and scored so many goals from midfield. You just dont give up on his talent he needs the run of games in the midfield.Blue Hefner said:leighton said:Not many of our midfield come near that mark either. Barry , De Jong , Zab have all had stinkers during there time in midfield yet they are picked ahead of more creative players. We need to find the right blend in the team which we dont have at times. Not to mention Vieria our central 2 of Barry and Vieria must of been the slowest midfield 2 playing this week. Against a quicker midfield 2 they would of struggled today on there own.
I agree about the mid-field not having much creativity and also not being the quickest. All i am saying is that SWP and Ireland are not the answer. They just don't offer enough over any length of time. 1 good goal every so often or a good run once a game isn't good enough
BlueRoscoe said:I have noticed that he always seems to play better for England.