Not really.
I still fucking hate red.
I’ve had a soft spot for the.mackems, ever since the 1973 FA Cup finalWhat do you think of Sunderland?
I hate the redshirt Establishment cartel and Tottenham, but have no particular issue with Forest and I have always liked Sunderland.
I’ve had a soft spot for the.mackems, ever since the 1973 FA Cup final
Similarity with Forest, as they were led by Brian Clough, whom I regard as the greatest British manager.
My hatred of red is totally irrational, in certain ways.
I know Peter Taylor was a huge part of Clough's success, but Brian was the figurehead.I agree about Clough, especially you see what he achieved from very little initially at Derby and Forest. In my Sheffield student days I went to watch his mid to late 80s Forest team sometimes when City weren’t playing. Usually a good watch.
I've read Jounalist Duncan Hamilton's book on CloughI know Peter Taylor was a huge part of Clough's success, but Brian was the figurehead.
Their success was no fluke, either, as proven by what they achieved at Hartlepool and Derby.
Have you read his autobiography?
His first Forest side was full of rejects. Larry Lloyd, John Robertson, Burns, as you said, Ian Bowyer, etc.I've read Jounalist Duncan Hamilton's book on Clough
" only if you kiss me "
Very enlightening ,and very funny..
Ive the up most respect for a manager who saw the potential in Birmingham City,s violent centre forward Kenny Burns ,signed him and promptly played him at centre back,where he was voted Player of the year in his first season by his fellow professionals ( or was it football writers ?) When forest stormed the league...Burns continued being violent at centre back but also showed great ability in his new found posistion.
Plucking striker Gary Birtles from long Eaton town and throwing him into a European Cup 1st round 1st leg v European Champions Liverpool
at the City ground ,when Unkown Birtles terrrorised England international centre backs Phil Thompson and Emlyn Hughes...scoring the 1st goal in a famous 2nil victory..
Signing Roy Keane from Cobh Gamblers in Ireland for 40k and putting the 19 year old in for his debut away at Liverpool ,where by all accounts he was outstanding ...and I've heard that from Liverpool fans.
ridiculously brave, inspired signings like that maybe defined his managerial career..together with the trophies.
Cloughs playing career is often overlooked too..an astonishing 251 goals in 274 games for Middelsborogh and Sunderland ....
Another reject in Clough s 1st side at forest was ex City left back Colin Barrett.His first Forest side was full of rejects. Larry Lloyd, John Robertson, Burns, as you said, Ian Bowyer, etc.
It was only after they’d become successful that they were able to buy players such as Trevor Francis and Peter Shilton.
His description in his autobiography of how he and Taylor went about selling their vision to Dave MacKay of how they wanted to utilise him is fascinating.
It’s probably out of print now. I picked up a copy for a quid in Tesco.
Yeah, I’d forgotten about him.Another reject in Clough s 1st side at forest was ex City left back Colin Barrett.
Easy to forget about Barrett, until you see his brilliant goal against Liverpool in the European cup 1st leg " 'he's the left back remember "Yeah, I’d forgotten about him.