Shootings in Paris

[TCIB]

The next Charlie Hebdo cover has been posted on Twitter and elsewhere and indeed features a Muslim man (Mohammed?) holding a placard saying 'Je Suis Charlie', with the headline:'Tout est pardonne' (All is forgiven). The shape of the character's head has already drawn comment for resembling a cock and balls.

I had a gardening q for you mate but my mind has gone blank.
Maybe a gardening 2015 thread or is the other still knocking around ?

 

[johnny on the spot]

The next Charlie Hebdo cover has been posted on Twitter and elsewhere and indeed features a Muslim man (Mohammed?) holding a placard saying 'Je Suis Charlie', with the headline:'Tout est pardonne' (All is forgiven). The shape of the character's head has already drawn comment for resembling a cock and balls.

I had a gardening q for you mate but my mind has gone blank.
Maybe a gardening 2015 thread or is the other still knocking around ?

Hello mate, no worries. I'll get the ball rolling as soon as I get back to work x

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I am in no way supporting the Muslim violent response to the events. It is wrong to take law into one's hands universally and Islamically as well. I was trying to understand how far the freedom of speech and expression can go. In India, the law itself prohibits deliberate and malicious intention of outraging the religious feelings of any one. So, one can approach the law without a problem. Would like to know if there is any similar laws in England.

It's fairly straight forward; with European countries shifting to a more secular outlook, religious belief is seen more as a choice and since choices can be mocked, religion is seen as fair game for ridicule in comparison to being gay or different skin colour, which you could probably accept that is not something which can be ''changed''.

Naturally I accept that to anyone who is Christian, Jewish or a Muslim that they would hold a different view and that their faith is something which is the major part of their soul but i'm not here to debate if the secular view is right or wrong, just to highlight the fact that all religious beliefs are free to be mocked with the understanding that it could cause offence to some. The line is crossed however when ridicule becomes discriminatory or an attempt to make another to be inferior. What defines that can be sketchy, but there are options people can take to voice their opposition to whatever they find offensive, OFCOM, Press Complaints Commission, things like that, and they will do whatever is required in conjunction with the law to determine if a crime has been committed.

Think of it on Bluemoon; People can post what they like, but if someone finds offence to it they can refer the post and the user to one of the moderators who will judge if it has contravened the COC. If it hasn't the post stays up, if it has, it's gone and the poster usually suspended or banned.

But mock the mods and you end up floating in the canal.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Free speech is all well and good but when you only have one life, is it really lose losing it for drawing a cartoon?
These murderers were just waiting for a reason to carry out these atrocities. It was only probably a matter of time before they were activated.
I just feel sad that innocent lives have been wasted for what feels like nothing.

 

[Metal Biker]

I am in no way supporting the Muslim violent response to the events. It is wrong to take law into one's hands universally and Islamically as well. I was trying to understand how far the freedom of speech and expression can go. In India, the law itself prohibits deliberate and malicious intention of outraging the religious feelings of any one. So, one can approach the law without a problem. Would like to know if there is any similar laws in England.

It's fairly straight forward; with European countries shifting to a more secular outlook, religious belief is seen more as a choice and since choices can be mocked, religion is seen as fair game for ridicule in comparison to being gay or different skin colour, which you could probably accept that is not something which can be ''changed''.

Naturally I accept that to anyone who is Christian, Jewish or a Muslim that they would hold a different view and that their faith is something which is the major part of their soul but i'm not here to debate if the secular view is right or wrong, just to highlight the fact that all religious beliefs are free to be mocked with the understanding that it could cause offence to some. The line is crossed however when ridicule becomes discriminatory or an attempt to make another to be inferior. What defines that can be sketchy, but there are options people can take to voice their opposition to whatever they find offensive, OFCOM, Press Complaints Commission, things like that, and they will do whatever is required in conjunction with the law to determine if a crime has been committed.

Think of it on Bluemoon; People can post what they like, but if someone finds offence to it they can refer the post and the user to one of the moderators who will judge if it has contravened the COC. If it hasn't the post stays up, if it has, it's gone and the poster usually suspended or banned.

But mock the mods and you end up floating in the canal.

Have I told you what an awesome job you guys do?

 

[TCIB]

Free speech is all well and good but when you only have one life, is it really lose losing it for drawing a cartoon?
These murderers were just waiting for a reason to carry out these atrocities. It was only probably a matter of time before they were activated.
I just feel sad that innocent lives have been wasted for what feels like nothing.

Oi, no shit threads tonight for you bud, stay on the daft ones and have a giggle.

 

[foetus]

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Free speech is all well and good but when you only have one life, is it really lose losing it for drawing a cartoon?
These murderers were just waiting for a reason to carry out these atrocities. It was only probably a matter of time before they were activated.
I just feel sad that innocent lives have been wasted for what feels like nothing.

Oi, no shit threads tonight for you bud, stay on the daft ones and have a giggle.

No worries mate. I am going to call it a day anyway and get some shut eye.

 

[TCIB]

Free speech is all well and good but when you only have one life, is it really lose losing it for drawing a cartoon?
These murderers were just waiting for a reason to carry out these atrocities. It was only probably a matter of time before they were activated.
I just feel sad that innocent lives have been wasted for what feels like nothing.

Oi, no shit threads tonight for you bud, stay on the daft ones and have a giggle.

No worries mate. I am going to call it a day anyway and get some shut eye.

Fair do's boss, wish your mate the best from bm btw :-)
Pretty sure i can say that on behalf of the whole forum.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Free speech is all well and good but when you only have one life, is it really lose losing it for drawing a cartoon?
These murderers were just waiting for a reason to carry out these atrocities. It was only probably a matter of time before they were activated.
I just feel sad that innocent lives have been wasted for what feels like nothing.

It's desperate isn't it. Clinical thought and it's just 'well...we're all gonna die, and the end it's all for nothing.' We ain't gonna reverse entropy.

That's taking it to extremes but you know what I mean. I suppose though, for a glimmer of hope, we can say if you died as a result of doing something you believed in, then it wasn't for nothing.

I wish we were bodiless. Just floating minds, believing things, or not believing things, ridiculing, criticizing with nothing but words, or rather thoughts, telepathically sent and received to eachother.