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Should we start playing with wingers?
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Marvin said:Diffrence between playing with width and wingers. I associate wingers with the Man Utd style of bombing down the wing getting to the deadball libe and firing it into the boxcrb said:Any numpty that doesn't believe our play needs more width should really educate themselves on the beautiful game.
But surely variety is important... Having someone who could do this on occasion, would give us an option and give the other team something different to look out for... A plan B if you like...?? Isnt this just sensible, rather than having all your eggs in one basket?
crb
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Jack Wills said:Not until we've got a good one. We need to convert more chances, especially those we create early in games. How many times have we battered teams for 20, 30, 60 minutes, maybe scored one goal, or have us wondering how it's 0-0, watching a succession of posts being hit, keepers having the game of their lives, defenders blocking the ball with an arsecheek, or slow Bosnians scuffing it gently towards the keeper. Of course, the opposition get more belief and equalise/win 1-0.
What we need to do is sign an absolute top class striker, ie Cavani or Falcao
Sell Dzeko.
Teach Silva to finish.
Buy a regular goal-scoring midfielder.
Honestly not trying to be argumentative but this claim of us not taking our chances has been lost on me. For all our possession we don't create that many chances and those that we do I'd describe as 50/50 chances at best very rarely we create anything I'd call clear cut. Only game I rem that we made good chances and failed to score was qpr and that was more down to the gk having a blinder rather than us squandering & again in that game for all our possession we should have been creating double the chances.
I agree.Said nearly all season that losing AJ was a loss and we should buy a wide forward as an alternative.Bluearmy said:Marvin said:Diffrence between playing with width and wingers. I associate wingers with the Man Utd style of bombing down the wing getting to the deadball libe and firing it into the boxcrb said:Any numpty that doesn't believe our play needs more width should really educate themselves on the beautiful game.
But surely variety is important... Having someone who could do this on occasion, would give us an option and give the other team something different to look out for... A plan B if you like...?? Isnt this just sensible, rather than having all your eggs in one basket?
Champions2012!
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Marvin said:I agree.Said nearly all season that losing AJ was a loss and we should buy a wide forward as an alternative.Bluearmy said:Marvin said:Diffrence between playing with width and wingers. I associate wingers with the Man Utd style of bombing down the wing getting to the deadball libe and firing it into the box
But surely variety is important... Having someone who could do this on occasion, would give us an option and give the other team something different to look out for... A plan B if you like...?? Isnt this just sensible, rather than having all your eggs in one basket?
AJ was quality, should have done what we could to keep him
He wanted to go, so fair enough selling him, but we didn't replace him. I know Sinclair came in but he's not in the same class.Champions2012! said:Marvin said:I agree.Said nearly all season that losing AJ was a loss and we should buy a wide forward as an alternative.Bluearmy said:But surely variety is important... Having someone who could do this on occasion, would give us an option and give the other team something different to look out for... A plan B if you like...?? Isnt this just sensible, rather than having all your eggs in one basket?
AJ was quality, should have done what we could to keep him
Champions2012! said:Marvin said:I agree.Said nearly all season that losing AJ was a loss and we should buy a wide forward as an alternative.Bluearmy said:But surely variety is important... Having someone who could do this on occasion, would give us an option and give the other team something different to look out for... A plan B if you like...?? Isnt this just sensible, rather than having all your eggs in one basket?
I wasnt his biggest fan and agreed with the sale, thinking we'd get someone of real quality in (Hazard). Didnt expect us to start the Season with Sinclair as the replacement though!
AJ was quality, should have done what we could to keep him
No as it doesn't work in Europe. It only works for United in the PL as the majority of managers have no tactical nous other than 'park the bus' which sadly can work against us if actioned effectively.
United are the only team I can think of that play with conventional wingers. All the other mentioned Ronaldo/Di Maria/Bale/Ribery/Robben etc have a lot more to their game.
I think focusing on a Cavani/Falcao is not what we need. I'd prefer to go all out for Bale or Neymar if we are switching to 433.
Bale Aguero Silva as a forward 3 offers pace, power, skill and workrate.
United are the only team I can think of that play with conventional wingers. All the other mentioned Ronaldo/Di Maria/Bale/Ribery/Robben etc have a lot more to their game.
I think focusing on a Cavani/Falcao is not what we need. I'd prefer to go all out for Bale or Neymar if we are switching to 433.
Bale Aguero Silva as a forward 3 offers pace, power, skill and workrate.
AucklandBlue said:No as it doesn't work in Europe. It only works for United in the PL as the majority of managers have no tactical nous other than 'park the bus' which sadly can work against us if actioned effectively.
United are the only team I can think of that play with conventional wingers. All the other mentioned Ronaldo/Di Maria/Bale/Ribery/Robben etc have a lot more to their game.
I think focusing on a Cavani/Falcao is not what we need. I'd prefer to go all out for Bale or Neymar if we are switching to 433.
Bale Aguero Silva as a forward 3 offers pace, power, skill and workrate.
But the 4 champions league semi finalisits all play with wingers/wide men....??
LoveCity said:There's a difference between caveman winger style and a modern winger style. We're the only top club I can think of without a real winger option... oh, Juventus I suppose, but their wing-backs are very effective.
Id say they have Giovinco as an option at least... We so need this option and have done for 2 years. Amazed people dont see it...
AJ?Ray78 said:It is not Mancini's style to play with natural width and he will not change his approach.
He didn't want to sell him. We were also in for Sanchez and Hazard. We just haven't been able to bring in wide players of sufficient quality
Marvin said:AJ?Ray78 said:It is not Mancini's style to play with natural width and he will not change his approach.
He didn't want to sell him. We were also in for Sanchez and Hazard. We just haven't been able to bring in wide players of sufficient quality
Not a Mancini signing, didn't play AJ regular enough to make him want to stay at City.
Ray78 said:It is not Mancini's style to play with natural width and he will not change his approach.
Then we have a Plan A, which everyone else knows about and they will continue to stifle us, with no Plan B to fall back on. Im a Mancini "Inner", but if we go into another season without a top draw winger/wide man option, we deserve everything that comes our way. Which unfortunately will be a similar outcome to this season...
H\e still played in a lot of games and was a very frequent sub. AJhad his head turned by idiot pundits who went on about his England career. Silly boy made a big mistakeRay78 said:Marvin said:AJ?Ray78 said:It is not Mancini's style to play with natural width and he will not change his approach.
He didn't want to sell him. We were also in for Sanchez and Hazard. We just haven't been able to bring in wide players of sufficient quality
Not a Mancini signing, didn't play AJ regular enough to make him want to stay at City.
kun
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Same style, more pace.
Bluearmy said:Ray78 said:It is not Mancini's style to play with natural width and he will not change his approach.
Then we have a Plan A, which everyone else knows about and they will continue to stifle us, with no Plan B to fall back on. Im a Mancini "Inner", but if we go into another season without a top draw winger/wide man option, we deserve everything that comes our way. Which unfortunately will be a similar outcome to this season...
True we need a little more variation in our style of play and more importantly a clinical finisher.<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:23 pm --<br /><br />
Marvin said:H\e still played in a lot of games and was a very frequent sub. AJhad his head turned by idiot pundits who went on about his England career. Silly boy made a big mistakeRay78 said:Marvin said:AJ?
He didn't want to sell him. We were also in for Sanchez and Hazard. We just haven't been able to bring in wide players of sufficient quality
Not a Mancini signing, didn't play AJ regular enough to make him want to stay at City.
True it could be a bad career move for AJ but who knows Di Canio could get the best out of him
Bluearmy said:AucklandBlue said:No as it doesn't work in Europe. It only works for United in the PL as the majority of managers have no tactical nous other than 'park the bus' which sadly can work against us if actioned effectively.
United are the only team I can think of that play with conventional wingers. All the other mentioned Ronaldo/Di Maria/Bale/Ribery/Robben etc have a lot more to their game.
I think focusing on a Cavani/Falcao is not what we need. I'd prefer to go all out for Bale or Neymar if we are switching to 433.
Bale Aguero Silva as a forward 3 offers pace, power, skill and workrate.
But the 4 champions league semi finalisits all play with wingers/wide men....??
Wide men, but not as conventional wingers as employed by United. They all have attributes of wingers but play more as 'inside forwards' (is that the correct term?) or as seen in Ronaldo and Messi even as a striker.
IMO this is the kind of player we need more than any other.
AucklandBlue said:Bluearmy said:AucklandBlue said:No as it doesn't work in Europe. It only works for United in the PL as the majority of managers have no tactical nous other than 'park the bus' which sadly can work against us if actioned effectively.
United are the only team I can think of that play with conventional wingers. All the other mentioned Ronaldo/Di Maria/Bale/Ribery/Robben etc have a lot more to their game.
I think focusing on a Cavani/Falcao is not what we need. I'd prefer to go all out for Bale or Neymar if we are switching to 433.
Bale Aguero Silva as a forward 3 offers pace, power, skill and workrate.
But the 4 champions league semi finalisits all play with wingers/wide men....??
Wide men, but not as conventional wingers as employed by United. They all have attributes of wingers but play more as 'inside forwards' (is that the correct term?) or as seen in Ronaldo and Messi even as a striker.
IMO this is the kind of player we need more than any other.
Well I would class Robben, Ribery, Hazard, Reus, Gotze, Bale, Pedro, Sanchez, Di Maria, Navas & Muller as the type of players we need. Call them what you like but all of them can take on a man, and run in behind defences... Something that Silva and Nasri cant really do... For me those 2 should play more centrally, but thats another argument....