Sir (why?) Alex Ferguson

mad4city said:
Going slightly off topic here but well, as the question's been posed...

Firstly, let me say that I have no truck with any monarchy, anywhere in the world. It's an out-moded concept, in my opinion and has no place in the modern world. Maybe it's because I was born and reared in a republic, that I feel this way but, anyhow, it's how I feel.

That said, I'm fully aware that it's not my place to tell other countries how they should go about their business so what the heck? If the Windsors want to play dress up and you're happy to pay for it, who am I to tell you what to do? (Please don't give me the tourism argument - a zillion people go Blarney Castle every year and it's been unoccupied for a very long time).

I would have thought though (and I'm honestly not being cheeky here (I might have been above), so genuine apologies if I'm offending anyone), that the bestowing of OBE's, Knighthoods etc was always an exercise in 'glory by association'. Sort of, hey that guys a good (ie dangerous) leader of men - make him a knighthood, give him lands and wealth and let everyone know that the king gave it to him. And now, hey Kylie/Fergie/that Scots lady on GMTV is very popular, make them a knight/ dame and the monarchy will gain popularity by association.
Is that not what it's all about - or have I missed a memo?

Just to repeat: absolutely no offence, whatsoever, meant.



As a concept its ok (if you apply it historically) but not relevent to real people at all

and to make Prescott a lord ................FFS
 
greeny-ctid said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
Ferguson has no reason to be jealous of us!

He has 90 million to spend. FACT.

All players want to play for Man Yoo because they have 'history'. FACT.

They already have the greatest player in the world in Rooney. FACT.

They don't need Silva, they have Giggs who is better and younger. FACT

sorry m8 did u say rooney is the greatest player in the world
someone must of slipped somet in your tea he is nowhere near as good as messi and ronaldo and ronaldo is nowhere near as good a messi so theres your FACT.

read it again mate, you aint understood it
 
bacon face's treble was more due to schmeichel & the goal frame keeping the rags hanging on at 0-1 when they were getting battered in the ec final and bergkamp missing a penalty in the last minute of normal time in the fa cup semi. bacon face had fuck all influence on these events.

it will be a nice memory for bumless to tell his grandkids about though. 'you remember manchester united winning trophies? and they used to play in red? stop taking the piss grandad.'
 
bluemooncol said:
greeny-ctid said:
sorry m8 did u say rooney is the greatest player in the world
someone must of slipped somet in your tea he is nowhere near as good as messi and ronaldo and ronaldo is nowhere near as good a messi so theres your FACT.

read it again mate, you aint understood it

sorry m8 i did not read it all cause i was in a rush lol soz m8
 
bumbles said:
TTTCITYBHOY said:
Where was Jock Stein's knighthood after winning the EC with Celtic with a team of players all born within a 30-mile radius of Glasgow?

Are Man United managers the only ones eligible for knighthood?

A total f***ing disgrace.

SAF was awarded hi Knighthood for doing something noone has ever done before ...and unlikely to do again .....win the ultimate treble....woman all you want ...but that is the ultimate and he was honoured for it .

Perhaps. But you could say that Jock Stein, Brian Clough and Bob Paisley all achieved something that was unprecedented in our game, and unlikely to be achieved ever again. So, as I asked in my first post, where are their knighthoods?

Personally, I think it's a crying shame that a gentleman like Bob Paisley gets only an OBE for winning 3 European Cups. And Jock Stein's unheralded achievement with Celtic was nothing short of miraculous, but not even an OBE for poor Jock. But we are all now expected to worship at the altar of the spitting bully-boy Alex "Typical Germans" Ferguson, and address him as 'Sir' just because he won ONE (at the time of his knighthood) Euro Cup. 'Shlur' Alex would be far more appropriate.

I detest the man immensely. He is without doubt the biggest WUM ever. His triumphant celebration of Owen's winning goal in front of the City fans last season was missing only an orange sash and flute. Is this what we expect from a so-called Knight of the Realm?

Rant over.
 
mad4city said:
Going slightly off topic here but well, as the question's been posed...

Firstly, let me say that I have no truck with any monarchy, anywhere in the world. It's an out-moded concept, in my opinion and has no place in the modern world. Maybe it's because I was born and reared in a republic, that I feel this way but, anyhow, it's how I feel.

That said, I'm fully aware that it's not my place to tell other countries how they should go about their business so what the heck? If the Windsors want to play dress up and you're happy to pay for it, who am I to tell you what to do? (Please don't give me the tourism argument - a zillion people go Blarney Castle every year and it's been unoccupied for a very long time).

I would have thought though (and I'm honestly not being cheeky here (I might have been above), so genuine apologies if I'm offending anyone), that the bestowing of OBE's, Knighthoods etc was always an exercise in 'glory by association'. Sort of, hey that guys a good (ie dangerous) leader of men - make him a knighthood, give him lands and wealth and let everyone know that the king gave it to him. And now, hey Kylie/Fergie/that Scots lady on GMTV is very popular, make them a knight/ dame and the monarchy will gain popularity by association.
Is that not what it's all about - or have I missed a memo?

Just to repeat: absolutely no offence, whatsoever, meant.


None taken.

In response, Bush family.
 
Yeah, ya gotta love the whole 'honorary knighthood' thing...

Bob Geldof... saves millions and respected the world over for doing so. Yup, we gotta give him a knighthood because heaven forfend the world might think some scruffy Paddy could pull this off without us. What's that? Midge who? Scottish, you say... Oh, just send him away with an OB whatsit.

Nelson Mandella (I think, might be wrong)... inspirational peacemaker of unrivalled international standing. Let's give him a knighthood even though we twiddled our thumbs whilst he was in jail.

And then you have...

George Dubya... war-mongering, half-wit whose good ol' daddy and brother Jeb used as a cat's paw to do their dirty work ... but hey, them Bush's got a big say on who gets the oil being divvied up out of Iraq, now. So, just keep them sweet!

And then you have...

Terry Wogan... nice chap off the telly who wears a wig and is bound to make the monarchy more popular. On the above criteria, I'm thinking it was a toss up between him and Bert from Sesame Street!
 
mad4city said:
And then you have...

Terry Wogan... nice chap off the telly who wears a wig and is bound to make the monarchy more popular. On the above criteria, I'm thinking it was a toss up between him and Bert from Sesame Street!

Personally I'd have given it Ernie!
 
Don't be silly! Ernie doesn't wear a wig - that's 'special Ernie hair'.
(He does have a glass eye, though).
 
TTTCITYBHOY said:
tis a fukn joke that red nosed alky got a "sir",and you get a guy like Jock Stein,who was the 1st british manager (and team) to win the European Cup.1 fukn year before that shite.God Bless ye "Sir Jock".FUF.
Well said big son
 

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