Sky Live games

The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Semi finals would be the first time it could affect us. With consecutive Sunday games (Stoke and Southampton), at least one would have to move. I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself but why don't they just schedule teams still left in the CL for the Saturdays? I'll bet that, if we are still in it, they'll only move one of them, so we'll end up playing Sunday/Wednesday.
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Yeah, there's not a hope they'll change things for us since it's on TV!

A favourable QF draw and anything can happen.
 
Pisses me off how little consideration they give to the travelling fans. 2 of the furthest and hardest to get to away games are at stupid times. Norwich 12.45 meaning we're leaving whilst it's still dark if we want to make kick off and now Southampton 4pm on a Sunday. What a joke.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Pisses me off how little consideration they give to the travelling fans. 2 of the furthest and hardest to get to away games are at stupid times. Norwich 12.45 meaning we're leaving whilst it's still dark if we want to make kick off and now Southampton 4pm on a Sunday. What a joke.
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Get used to it!! It's going to be a feature from now on I'm afraid.
 
Great stuff... More shite to listen to on how poor our defence is, show every goal we have let in played in slow motion then play back the great goals the opposition team has scored.... Which player will they slag off I wonder, might be augero if he hasn't scored for 10 days, although nahhhhhh he never fails to find the net for that long :)
 
ninjamonkey said:
Pisses me off how little consideration they give to the travelling fans. 2 of the furthest and hardest to get to away games are at stupid times. Norwich 12.45 meaning we're leaving whilst it's still dark if we want to make kick off and now Southampton 4pm on a Sunday. What a joke.
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"they" dont actually want you to travel.
"they" want you to install sky/sky sports if you haven,t got it, or watch the advertisement-laden production if you have.
"they" target the away games at Norwich etc. your a fan, your addicted, you either go to the game,or you watch their product.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
"they" dont actually want you to travel.
"they" want you to install sky/sky sports if you haven,t got it, or watch the advertisement-laden production if you have.
"they" target the away games at Norwich etc. your a fan, your addicted, you either go to the game,or you watch their product.
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Good points
Why else would we get Norwich as an early kick off, Southampton at 4pm on a Sunday, Arsenal on a Monday night before Christmas and who can forget Swansea as an early kick off on New Year's Day
And before the loons come along, it happens to all clubs, Newcastle at Bournemouth as an early kick off, Liverpool at Exeter on a Friday night

Someone would have to help me out to when it happens to the rags
 
dennishasdoneit said:
"they" dont actually want you to travel.
"they" want you to install sky/sky sports if you haven,t got it, or watch the advertisement-laden production if you have.
"they" target the away games at Norwich etc. your a fan, your addicted, you either go to the game,or you watch their product.
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Then "they" take the piss out of the empty seats during the match! Hypocritical bastards.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
"they" dont actually want you to travel.
"they" want you to install sky/sky sports if you haven,t got it, or watch the advertisement-laden production if you have.
"they" target the away games at Norwich etc. your a fan, your addicted, you either go to the game,or you watch their product.
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Correct. Monday Night Football is a prime example of this. Monday is the one night a week where i would rather get in bed at about 21:00 and get an early night after what is usually 3/4 times a month, a heavy weekend. One of the last things i want to is traipse to a football match I can't really be arsed going to and not get in until 23:00.

Then there's where fans have to travel from and to for Monday nights. In recent years off the top of my head there has been Palace v Sunderland, Everton v Palace, Everton v QPR, Villa v Southampton, Southampton v United and one year amazingly Newcastle v Portsmouth. Unless you're unemployed or can just book days off willy-nilly how can people really travel to these games? Tele companies don't change fixtures until about six weeks before the game and even in jobs where you can book days off, many need more than six weeks' notice to book holidays.
 
squirtyflower said:
Good points
Why else would we get Norwich as an early kick off, Southampton at 4pm on a Sunday, Arsenal on a Monday night before Christmas and who can forget Swansea as an early kick off on New Year's Day
And before the loons come along, it happens to all clubs, Newcastle at Bournemouth as an early kick off, Liverpool at Exeter on a Friday night

Someone would have to help me out to when it happens to the rags
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The daft thing is, away fans only tend to make up a maximum of 3000 for league games so if 1500 sacked off a match due to it being on the box and at the other end of the country how much extra are Sky/BT making off those fans that don't bother travelling? Because of those 1500, plenty will just take advantage of a Sky/BT subscription that has already been paid for by either going down to the pub to watch it or going round to a mate's house. Others will watch it on a stream or just listen on the radio so Sky/BT won't benefit there either. I can't think they make anything more than a negligible amount of extra money by sticking Norwich v Sunderland on a Monday night. Perhaps they don't make any extra money at all!
 
Gray said:
I will never forget playing Everton at home on a Sunday morning at 11.15am - what utter bollocks.
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That was laughable but I think it was originally earmarked as a Saturday teatime kick-off. IIRC Everton were in Europe so it got moved to the Sunday and was screened on Prem Plus - it had to be an early kick-off so as not to clash with Sky's 2 live games later that day.

However, I'm not totally convinced that this is the earliest time a Premier League game has kicked off. Apparently in the late 90's there were several live games screened at that time, Arsenal's famous 1-0 win at the Swamp in 1998 which kick-started their title charge being one of them, but I have a vague recollection that our derby match at Maine Road on March 20th 1993 may have been an 11AM kick-off. Can anyone clarify?
 
M18CTID said:
The daft thing is, away fans only tend to make up a maximum of 3000 for league games so if 1500 sacked off a match due to it being on the box and at the other end of the country how much extra are Sky/BT making off those fans that don't bother travelling? Because of those 1500, plenty will just take advantage of a Sky/BT subscription that has already been paid for by either going down to the pub to watch it or going round to a mate's house. Others will watch it on a stream or just listen on the radio so Sky/BT won't benefit there either. I can't think they make anything more than a negligible amount of extra money by sticking Norwich v Sunderland on a Monday night. Perhaps they don't make any extra money at all!
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I take your point..but i dont believe the sky bosses limit their target audience to the 3000 max away fans..In Manchester ,say there are 100k folk who would call themselves City fans...not all of them go to even home matches regularly,quite a few may be non drinkers and just not like pubs anyway,quite a few( the elderly ) will not be pc users and quite a few more won,t even consider watching an "illegal " stream,quite a few wouldn,t know how to if they wanted to..Quite a few will have sky but not sky sports, quite a few may just have had an increase in their monthly income and finally decide to take the plunge with sky sports...quite a few will have been there at every or most away matches and finally decided this is the month they give up and get sky sports in...Special offer rates for new customers will draw a few more in..

There are any number of reasons why, each month,from that modest throw away figure of 100k, a decent amount will subscribe ...bingo..Business works on a" mindset of more" approach, each month new subscribers mean increased revenue...its a far bigger target pool than 3000 regular away fans...and the approach would appear to bloody work as they keep doing it.

If only 200 City fans in Manchester subscribe at the time of the Norwich match-at say £50 a go( i have no idea of the true cost, binned mine years ago) thats 10k increased revenue for a company doing fuck all really in Manchester alone...add that to other fans from around the country doing the same and it soon adds up, each month, over the year.
 
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