Sky Sports and TNT games on TV 25/26

Man_City_Loyal said:
its coming! My work along with others have been working with the PL on this
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maccieblue said:
Because sky TV want the final day of the season to be higher profile than the cup final
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I don’t really think it’s that. This way they can have the Cup Final and virtually a full round of league games on the penultimate weekend.

They can’t have the Final after the league season finishes, without the season finishing a week earlier.

Effectively moving the 5th Round back to a weekend, after five seasons of it being midweek, has created this situation and it’s here to stay for the foreseeable.

Mind you the FA did also say:

“Additionally, there will be no Premier League games on the Friday night before the Final, to allow focus on the build-up to the showpiece event”

And that has gone out of the window, with not one but two games this Friday night.
 
bluetonium said:
The nature of the product the club is selling a nd the environment it operates in, ie subject to change as little as just days before the event due to rights issued giving TV companies the final day on scheduling, mean that the self-imposed minimum games rule to retain a season ticket is now grossly unfair and likely to cause additional stress and expense for the average season ticket holder.

If I can't attend a match because the fixture is changed a few weeks before and I can't go due to work or personal commitments, or illness, why should I or any season ticket holder be held accountable for that and be punished? As said above, how many city games will be changed next season? How many were this season? Twenty five, thirty? How many were changed again and again because we now just play too much football and competitions clashed, or because some TV executive wanted the teatime slot as their metrics showed it boosts ratings and subscriptions?

Bournemouth at 8pm. Not just a change of plans for me, but you're also asking me to let my youngest daughter miss her swimming lesson which I've already paid for, miss her bedtime routine and story, and that's with me also needing to get up at 5am the next day for a work conference. It. Has. Consequences. So I have to drive this time, pay the extra money in petrol and car parking, and just accept it. Or I say, no thanks, I chance losing my ticket and that's ok because it could get sold again and for even greater profit.

We must attend x minimum number of games now to retain our season tickets, and we know full well if they are taken from us were unlikely to be able to get them back, which is an emotional as well as financial impact (attending single games if you can't get a season ticket is far more costly) , but they reserve the right (in fact have to do it as they've already taken he money) to change those games not for sporting reasons, not for cultural reasons, but according to when it fits best in the schedule for the most casual viewers.

No thought to player health. No thought to fan's pockets or calendars. Just go and do it otherwise you're replaced.

I'd be in favour of bypassing the club and the premier league all together and pushing for this to be raised in parliament, if fans of other clubs can stop shouting 115 for a second and see the real enemy is in plain view, pushing fans out of the game.

Bournemouth 8pm on a Tuesday. Not great for us. Near impossible for Bournemouth fans without either taking time off work, paid or unpaid, or causing friction in families. That's just one example of the ridiculousness of the power and influence tv companies have over the league.

Sell the rights, take the money, keep us as the number one attractive league. But there should be some very basic yet fundamental rules in place to protect those attending the live event.

A strict, published, schedule, hell why can't they even declare their picks as soon as the fixtures are out, we all know which days are or could be European and cup ones. Failing that, a minimum fixture change notification requirement of 13 weeks.

No stupid travel around bank holidays, or limit it to 100 miles or three nearest stadiums for the most rural ones . Our public transport in this country is unreliable enough without adding extra pressure at these crucial times.

As for the season tickets themselves, absolutely allow fans to skip a game so many times per season as long as the ticket is transferred within the friends and family group or offered up for sale, and limit the times that can be done for sure, but also consider allowing to take a sabbatical if we know we can't make more than so many games, protecting the ticket for first refusal the following season, or again and 6, 12 or 18 match friends and family transfer. Hell, charge us a tenner admin fee to do it if you must.

It's a symptom of the wider virus of pure greed in the modern game. Every team and organisation wants more, doesn't want to miss out on it to someone else, so we have more and more games generating more and more money, and if you like it you'll pay for it or lose out to someone who will.

It's time for a football fan's rights charter in this country. We've been trod on for so long and regarded as inconsequential.
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What you have posted is totally irrelevant.

The Bournemouth match hasn't been moved to Tuesday for TV coverage. It was moved because City are playing the FA Cup Final on the designated weekend. That would have happened regardless of TV schedules. League matches have been moved because of FA Cup matches since the Football League was formed and this is no different.

I appreciate that the Club should have consulted you about your daughter's swimming lesson before fixing a revised date.
 
JGL07 said:
What you have posted is totally irrelevant.

The Bournemouth match hasn't been moved to Tuesday for TV coverage. It was moved because City are playing the FA Cup Final on the designated weekend. That would have happened regardless of TV schedules. League matches have been moved because of FA Cup matches since the Football League was formed and this is no different.

I appreciate that the Club should have consulted you about your daughter's swimming lesson before fixing a revised date.
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Pretty sure City wanted Wednesday but tv said Tuesday because of the Europa League final, so I'd stand by that they had an influence . In this case maybe less consequential between Tuesday or Wednesday, but I don't think that invalidates my whole post and the points raise, if you do then that's fine. It affects me as a fan and dad, that makes it relevant and valid, and I hear similar stories from other fans too. Don't get your dismissive attitude towards a fellow blue though, that's not needed, but have a good one regardless.
 
Traditionally even post war, the FA Cup Final was the last game of the season on the first weekend of May. Played on a Saturday with a 3 pm kick off with no other games on the day or after.

There was effectively a near three month Summer season break for which most players did not receive payment and generally took summer jobs cutting grass with local council parks. It meant the likes of Jack Dyson could play cricket for Lancashire and football for City.

The 21st century brought in media money that demands non stop, year round football and mor competitions that diminishes the importance of all trophies. Commercialisation means elite clubs have a stranglehold. City is now one of those clubs.
 
City & Blue Brazil said:
Doubt very much a platform showing all matches would be a reasonable price .
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Sky & TNT are paying approximately £25 million per game on average from next season. On top of that they have all the expense of actually broadcasting the games. While the league just sit back and count the money.

If they ever did bring it all in-house, similar to the NFL and sold direct to the punter, there’s no way on earth it would be ‘reasonable’
 
Stephen230 said:
Sky & TNT are paying approximately £25 million per game on average from next season. On top of that they have all the expense of actually broadcasting the games. While the league just sit back and count the money.

If they ever did bring it all in-house, similar to the NFL and sold direct to the punter, there’s no way on earth it would be ‘reasonable’
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As a model its fraught with issues when certain clubs would have many, many more millions of viewers prepared to pay to pay than others.

You mention the NFL - just had an admittedly quick look online and they don’t seem to offer a straightforward pass just to watch one team only for a full season. (?) I’m not sure they offer that direct to the fan.
 
mexico1970 said:
Got to be honest here, I wouldn't pay for a match unless it all came under one platform for a VERY reasonable price and it showed all 3pm kick offs.

That wont happen so I will carry on regardless.
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What 3 pm's , looks like there won't be any!
 
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