yep fraid so. remember the pellegrini years which was mostly a decent, if aging, core from the prior generation (silva, hart, kompany, aguero, yaya) supplemented by a load of pretty average recruitment (Bony, Jovetic, Mangala, Navas, Demochilis, Sagna, Fernando)
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So what do we need in the summer....
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Amen, who knows we might need replacements for Josko, Kova and Rodri as well. Should be an eventful summer I am excited for it.Yes, things escalated quite quickly.....
Because we need twoWhy are people saying we need a RB? Our RB is one of the best around, one of our best and most consistent players and, despite only playing as a RB for 15 months, looks like he’s played there his whole life.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Needs some major work on the middle of the park with Bernie going, hopefully Foden can get back to his best and actually starting games.
What will the club be able to spend in the summer seing as they went big in the winter transfer window?
What will the club be able to spend in the summer seing as they went big in the winter transfer window?
Pissed off they scraped staying up.More points than we got this year. Spurs being relegated would be an excellent start.
City_Sean
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An entire new midfield for me. We lack both the legs and intensity in the middle of the park and it's evident whenever we play someone half decent.
Controversial but the jury is well and truly out on Semenyo for me so I'd argue two high quality wingers too.
Controversial but the jury is well and truly out on Semenyo for me so I'd argue two high quality wingers too.
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Energy and new ideas, especially in midfield
Put this on the squad planning thread but will repeat myself
One expensive starting midfielder, whether its Anderson (my pick) or Tonali to drive our midfield.
Then supplement that with a younger CM who's around the first XI or can add to the squad and grow around the £50m/£60m mark, like Maza or Mateus Fernandes.
Keep Rodri, secure Doku/Gvardiol/Foden to long term deals
Get rid of "weak" players like Reijnders, Savinho & Rico Lewis.
Bring in Palestra to supplement Nunes
Replace Marmoush or Nico G if they leave, happy for both to stay
Stay away from Chelsea players
Put this on the squad planning thread but will repeat myself
One expensive starting midfielder, whether its Anderson (my pick) or Tonali to drive our midfield.
Then supplement that with a younger CM who's around the first XI or can add to the squad and grow around the £50m/£60m mark, like Maza or Mateus Fernandes.
Keep Rodri, secure Doku/Gvardiol/Foden to long term deals
Get rid of "weak" players like Reijnders, Savinho & Rico Lewis.
Bring in Palestra to supplement Nunes
Replace Marmoush or Nico G if they leave, happy for both to stay
Stay away from Chelsea players
Keepingthefaithsince1976
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I would imagine patience & humility....what a 10 year ride that was...we may have to share the success for a few years.
- A right back who can ideally go into the centre of midfield with the 6
- A proper number 8
- Ideally, a top drawer right winger who is technically excellent and poses a goal threat
Then it really depends on other outgoings.
I’d be happy to see us make big changes to the squad this summer, to give Maresca what he wants in terms of the profile of the squad.
- A proper number 8
- Ideally, a top drawer right winger who is technically excellent and poses a goal threat
Then it really depends on other outgoings.
I’d be happy to see us make big changes to the squad this summer, to give Maresca what he wants in terms of the profile of the squad.
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A few people underestimating how the club is ran. One man leaving wont be the be all and end all.Its over.
We are just a normal top 6 club again who will be lucky to win a trophy any season.
The guarantee of 90+ points most season days are gone.
- A right back who can ideally go into the centre of midfield with the 6
- A proper number 8
- Ideally, a top drawer right winger who is technically excellent and poses a goal threat
Then it really depends on other outgoings.
I’d be happy to see us make big changes to the squad this summer, to give Maresca what he wants in terms of the profile of the squad.
I've been thinking about this as well. Taking into account the obvious situations of player contracts, not wanting to leave, finding buyers etc. will the new guy want a phased approach to remoulding the squad, or a more decisive start to his reign. Up sides and pitfalls to both potentially, should be interesting regardless of which way we go.
melrose40yarder
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Tejani along with Lewis,Savinho and Marmoush are not good enough,Jury out on Semenyo.Foden needs to redicover his formHe wasnt the same after a heavy Christmas schedule.
Like others I would like to see two mobile, high quality midfielders and a no nonsense leader like a a Vinny or Andy Morrison.
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I'm a bit surprised some people don't rate Semenyo - he's scored some big goals for us I thought and has played a pretty big part in us challenging for the title. I totally get at times he's not looked great, but to me he feels like one of those players who works hard and scores even when he's not doing well. He will come good I think.
I'm wary of making a lot of changes after Pep - we need some of the old guard to stick around to make sure the new players know what the standard at City is. Players like Ake, Rodri, Kovacic all need to play their part on the training pitch and help Maresca stamp his mark on the club.
However, this season has had plenty of moments where we looked dead on our feet. In particular, the midfield has looked dire at times and we've made some bang average runners look world class at times.
I don't think we should be looking at players at the level of the Nico Gonzales/Marmoush/Ait Nouri/Savinho/Reijnders level. They aren't bad players, but if we put these type of players up for sale we aren't getting calls from PSG, Real or Bayern are we. They rarely affect games and as squad players they are fine but they rarely trouble the MOTM awards. We need to bring in players who are starters - not bench warmers.
I'm not sure who's available but we have to look at the likes of Anderson and Wharton - they will be very, very good players in future. Tonali is another I like and think he'd do well in our team. If Tchoumeni/Camavinga are available I'd look at them as well. We absolutely have to have legs in midfield and also top-level experience.
We also need full backs. Nunes has had a good season but has no competition and still has brain farts for me. O'Reilly has been superb but Ait Nouri isn't up to it - maybe he will come good but he feels a bit lightweight for me. Not sure who's available, but if TAA is we should move for him as he would have been world class under Pep's system.
Our forward line needs a really good think about. Haaland's breaking records but has games where he might as well not play. I don't know if he needs support or a tactical change, but he also has no competition. Again, I'm not sure who's available but if Marmoush can't play on his own then we need to look at someone else who can.
I'm wary of making a lot of changes after Pep - we need some of the old guard to stick around to make sure the new players know what the standard at City is. Players like Ake, Rodri, Kovacic all need to play their part on the training pitch and help Maresca stamp his mark on the club.
However, this season has had plenty of moments where we looked dead on our feet. In particular, the midfield has looked dire at times and we've made some bang average runners look world class at times.
I don't think we should be looking at players at the level of the Nico Gonzales/Marmoush/Ait Nouri/Savinho/Reijnders level. They aren't bad players, but if we put these type of players up for sale we aren't getting calls from PSG, Real or Bayern are we. They rarely affect games and as squad players they are fine but they rarely trouble the MOTM awards. We need to bring in players who are starters - not bench warmers.
I'm not sure who's available but we have to look at the likes of Anderson and Wharton - they will be very, very good players in future. Tonali is another I like and think he'd do well in our team. If Tchoumeni/Camavinga are available I'd look at them as well. We absolutely have to have legs in midfield and also top-level experience.
We also need full backs. Nunes has had a good season but has no competition and still has brain farts for me. O'Reilly has been superb but Ait Nouri isn't up to it - maybe he will come good but he feels a bit lightweight for me. Not sure who's available, but if TAA is we should move for him as he would have been world class under Pep's system.
Our forward line needs a really good think about. Haaland's breaking records but has games where he might as well not play. I don't know if he needs support or a tactical change, but he also has no competition. Again, I'm not sure who's available but if Marmoush can't play on his own then we need to look at someone else who can.
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Disagree. A new dawn. New players. Fresh ideas. A great time to be a blue.yep fraid so. remember the pellegrini years which was mostly a decent, if aging, core from the prior generation (silva, hart, kompany, aguero, yaya) supplemented by a load of pretty average recruitment (Bony, Jovetic, Mangala, Navas, Demochilis, Sagna, Fernando)
BlueMoonz1977
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Its the start of a brand new era at our club. And to get that era kickstarted in the correct way then full backing and proper recruitment is a must
GaudinoMotors
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Well we'll find out soon enough whether the owners and hierarchy are still hungry and arent going to accept mediocrity.
Seems to me the red shirts and media are already hovering over our expected demise, with pretenders like villa and Newcastle getting giddy at it too.
Need to prove them all wrong with a very serious transfer window.
Seems to me the red shirts and media are already hovering over our expected demise, with pretenders like villa and Newcastle getting giddy at it too.
Need to prove them all wrong with a very serious transfer window.
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Sorry do you mean Fernandinho ( fernando ?)yep fraid so. remember the pellegrini years which was mostly a decent, if aging, core from the prior generation (silva, hart, kompany, aguero, yaya) supplemented by a load of pretty average recruitment (Bony, Jovetic, Mangala, Navas, Demochilis, Sagna, Fernando)
The club particularly Hugo and the new manager have to be ruthless with getting some out the door. Savinho, Marmoush, Lewis and Ake should be gone. I also think Nico G and Trafford may wish to move on for playing time.
Then as far as incomings go we really need a midfield enforcer - there are sadly not many Kev's out there - but having Cherki, Doku and hopefully a refocussed Phil should fill our creative needs. A box to box player who can dictate the pace of play and stop counter attacks will be the key. In other words someone who is physically able to dominate.
During the last 2 years Pep relied on Bernie to set the tone and whereas he was fantastic, at times he did slow us down and often refused to put Erling through quickly. I remember Erling saying he had to adjust because of Bernie and Gundo playing slow possession football. We should become a dynamic team that plays to get the best out of our main striker. Pace and power with the craft of Rayan who should be able to play without a handbrake on!
I also think Semenyo would benefit from us playing faster.
A new out and out fullback would be good and I hope the new manager will go with Khush, Josko, Reis and Guehi to fill the central defence positions.
In my opinion we don't need lots of players but the ones we do get need to be more than squad players. We should then be able to rely on the academy to fill any rotational spots.
So - 2 midfielders - (one an automatic choice - the other dependent on Rodri's fitness) and one fullback would be it for me.
For injuries we have cover with Nico O able to go into midfield and Semenyo to play up top when Erling is out.
It will be interesting for sure.
Then as far as incomings go we really need a midfield enforcer - there are sadly not many Kev's out there - but having Cherki, Doku and hopefully a refocussed Phil should fill our creative needs. A box to box player who can dictate the pace of play and stop counter attacks will be the key. In other words someone who is physically able to dominate.
During the last 2 years Pep relied on Bernie to set the tone and whereas he was fantastic, at times he did slow us down and often refused to put Erling through quickly. I remember Erling saying he had to adjust because of Bernie and Gundo playing slow possession football. We should become a dynamic team that plays to get the best out of our main striker. Pace and power with the craft of Rayan who should be able to play without a handbrake on!
I also think Semenyo would benefit from us playing faster.
A new out and out fullback would be good and I hope the new manager will go with Khush, Josko, Reis and Guehi to fill the central defence positions.
In my opinion we don't need lots of players but the ones we do get need to be more than squad players. We should then be able to rely on the academy to fill any rotational spots.
So - 2 midfielders - (one an automatic choice - the other dependent on Rodri's fitness) and one fullback would be it for me.
For injuries we have cover with Nico O able to go into midfield and Semenyo to play up top when Erling is out.
It will be interesting for sure.