So what is wrong at the moment?

The problem for me watching at the stadium was our inability to shift the ball quickly forward enough. We were the better team in terms of individual talent but like an old style boxer wouldn't finish them off and no sign of a dirty sneaky punch. Chelsea scored a goal against us this season which I could never imagine us getting away with, 3 touches and buried. not read any of the thread but that's what stuck out for me
 
super_city_si said:
bellbuzzer said:
Using the same tactics over and over again, an ever-changing back four, the inability to deal with rapid counter-attacks despite it happening on a regular basis.
When playing out from the back, more often than not the ball ends up with YT, that used to be a good thing, he has vision and accuracy, trouble is, his potential targets are known to the opposition and closely marked. Thus the slow, short 5 yard sideways dance begins until the ball is lost, a simple forward pass and another counter-attack begins. Occasionally, a flash of brilliance from Silva or Aguero, even more occasionally from the big man himself results in a goal. Our tactics have not evolved, opposition tactics have. The players show no sign of being better, in some cases quite the opposite. When our m.o. is so rigid it makes everyone's job so much harder, forcing errors. Psychologically the team look bewildered.
What happens next? If the early part of the season is a guide, nothing. MP seems incapable of change. He will live or die by 4-4-2.

Spot on. We do the same thing every game, and at the moment we are short on form through out the whole team. We need to ride this storm with a pragmatic approach. Lets keep it tight at the back, no bombing forward from full back, keep a defensive shape and start getting some clean sheets. We have the players to grab a goal from little so lets play back in to form by getting some defensive confidence through pragmatism. Then when we have the payers fit and firing we can start letting the leash out.
Wasn't that the approach that Mancini took when he replaced Hughes?
 
It's definitely the system we are playing right now.

The players we have suits a 4-2-3-1 formation with Yaya being one of the attacking midfielders. We are not utilising our two best and most creative attacking midfielders properly,

Yaya spends too much time as a deep lying midfielder, more often than not picking up the ball from the central defenders and then just giving short passes just over the half way line, and then we ask him to deal with counter attacks as a defensive midfielder when we inevitably give the ball away, pussy footing around in the middle of the pitch. It's a fucking criminal waste of one of our best attacking and creative midfielders!

Then we have David Silva, wasted out on the left wing, his best position is surely as a central attacking midfielder? He offers liitle defensive support to the left back (unlike Milner) and when he's not on his game on the left, he offers little attacking threat and also little defensive cover, in short he is wasted on the wings!

We need to find a system that plays to both Yaya's and Spanish Dave's strengths, simple as that!

Why can't we use Yaya and David as attacking midfielders at the same time in a 4-2-3-1, for example they could both swap/interchange positions throughout the game, this way whenever one gets tired, he can go out wide to have a rest whilst the other concentrates on attacking through the centre? At least this way there is always one of our two best players playing through the centre attacking, rather than none at the moment.

(I know David comes into the centre from the wing during each game, but we need either Yaya or David to always be in the centre, not just sometimes).
 
Posted after Liverpool-Chelsea, obviously. But what I say at the end applies here: I'm beyond worrying what others do now. It's what City — and only City — does that concerns me at the point we're at

Ok, a few days have passed, and we’ve all had time to digest what happened the other night.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I felt humiliated by those two results against Newcastle and CSKA, in a way that I did not about the other three defeats.
At the time, Stoke felt like an annoying blip, a series of bad mistakes by three players culminating in a goal, in a game that we had clearly dominated, albeit in a sterile kind of way. Bayern? Well, Bayern are Bayern. Enough said. No shame there. West Ham, when we played them, were on a roll and are still playing the best football they’ve played for several seasons. Fair dos.
But against Newcastle, where we played nearly our strongest team against a bunch of kids, and against the not very terrifying CSKA, let’s be frank, we were abject. This is supposed to be Fortress Etihad. Well, that’s out the window.
A third of the season has now gone. We’re not playing at all well. Nothing is settled, but I do find myself wondering if this is going to be a trophyless year like 2012-13. Several players have lost form and/or confidence at the same time, to disastrous effect. Merlin’s out, and by God we’re missing him, but that in itself is worrying. We shouldn’t have to depend on a player to that extent. He was injured for two lengthy spells last season, and we managed without him pretty decently, in fact.
There are no miracle solutions (sacking Pellegrini here and now is certainly not one of them, unless you can get Pep Guardiola or José Mourinho, who is a gobshite, but a hell of a coach, to come to Manchester at the drop of a hat — point taken?) but two or three things stand out, and surely it’s time for Pellegrini to be more flexible. It’s all very well to say “I train teams to play attacking football” but there’s more than one way of playing attacking football.
Anyone can see that Yaya’s not delivering, at all, and that furthermore he’s making mistakes that are costing the entire team. The problem with a player like Yaya is that they can play a pretty shit game, and then deliver, in thirty seconds, something that maybe two or three other players in the world can deliver. The Villa game this season was a case in point. That was a terrific goal, a genuine “Yaya” goal. He did virtually nothing else of note. So there’s always a temptation to keep him on. But I think the time has come for Pellegrini to have the balls to put him on the bench. Not as a punishment, but he should just take him aside, or call him into his office on the Monday, and have a quiet talk with him. Yaya just needs to sit on the bench, look, learn, reflect, get his heart and mind right again. He may not ever get back to the level he was at last year, but he can surely play better than this, and as I say, it’s unsettling the whole team.
Our best midfield configuration for the time being, it seems to me, is therefore Milner, Fernando, Fernandinho, in front of the back four. Or Milner, Fernando, Nasri. Because it’s true that Fernandinho also is not playing at anything like the level he was delivering last season. Neither solution is ideal — Nasri is not a box to box midfielder and never will be, so that leaves a lot on the shoulders of Jimmy Milner. Fernando obviously stays back and covers. He’s not been perfect recently, but then, who has? That’s his job, that’s what he was brought in to do.
Up front I would ask Merlin, when he comes back, to play a genuine number 10 role behind Sergio. That’s it. That’s where he destroys defences. He should not be out wide. Ever.
Neither Jovetic nor Edin deserve to start at the moment. But then neither does Navas. I suppose you’ve got to pick one of those three, just to make up the eleventh man, although they’re obviously very different kinds of players. All of them have gone badly off the boil. Jovetic particularly disappoints me. I really thought that he was going to be to our first half of this season what Beast was to the first half of last. That’s what it looked like for the first couple of games, before the injury. He may still come good. He works hard, but he’s certainly not scoring, and he’s not really creating. Edin is going through one of his “I’m not here periods”. It kills me how the man can do what he did in the last two months of last season and then revert to this. What can we say about him that hasn’t already been said?
And what’s going on with Navas? He almost never seems to go wide of his man and get down to the by-line these days. He did it many times last season and it caused chaos. It was exactly what we needed. Instead, he constantly cuts inside, getting into sterile exchanges with Yaya or whoever, slowing the whole attack down. Has he lost a yard of pace, have the full backs become cute about him? Just don’t understand it.
The back four’s not great, but it’ll get better ¬ — Vinny and Zab are not up to their usual level, they’ll get back there, I’m certain. The best member of that back line is Martin Demichelis at present. But we have a left back problem, and unless you can find a world class left back to buy in January (or next summer), we’ve got to live with it.
Meagre consolations? Joe’s playing pretty well, goals are going in because he’s exposed by the midfield and back four. He’s stopped plenty this last month. Only three players have been delivering at anything like their normal level, for about a month: him, Merlin, Sergio. And of course James Milner.
Oh, and for what it’s worth, our problems are as nothing compared to the rags. Seriously doubt they’ll get top four. But I couldn’t honestly give much of a toss about that. It’s City that concerns me. We are champions, we are City. Where’s that pride?
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Scaring Europe to Death said:
rushts said:
Lack of respect for the manager? Pelli lost the dressing room?
Tired/ Burnt out /Training too hard?
Too many players on long term contracts/ Lack of professionalism?

What the hell is going on? It's a complete meltdown in Europe and we are going to cock the whole season up if something is not done very quickly.

So where is it going wrong at the moment in your opinion?

Funny because i made a similar point, under a different user name a couple of seasons ago and got absolutely slaughtered.

My critics all followed the same route:

August 2012: What’s your problem? We’re champions
September 2012: What’s you’re problem? We’re only one point worse than last year?
October 2012: What’s your problem? If we win our game in hand we’ll be level with United.
November 2012: What;s your problem? Sign of a good team to be playing badly and still be 2nd in the table.
December 2012 What’s your problem? United blew a bigger lead last season
January 2013: Rag alert

At the end of the day it’s all about the preparation

Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.
My word...

This Wum still knocking about??

Fuck me how old is this fucking line.

Straight out of a shit training course.





From the 1980's.
 
Having watched the Liverpool v Chelsea game earlier today either we need to find form quickly and / or Chelski have a sudden dip. Otherwise our title will be gone by January.
Chelsea are playing with such intensity and energy and at times today pressed the Dippers so far back that the defenders constantly made errors and looked so ragged.Also the speed of counter attack was impressive.
We regularly have possession above 60% but we too often run down cul de sacs and then when the opposition break we are caught with our pants down.
Can we adapt our game to match the Chavs, Bayern, Madrid, etc.? With our current personnel I think not. New fresher younger squad members a must for next season. I am not like some suggesting a major overhaul but just the engine room where it all happens.
 
This Season is a write off .Time just to consolidate and plan next campaign strategy.
If I were the the Owners I'd be kicking the ass of Txixi as he has spent a shed load of money and it doesn't look well spent at all.
If Pellers gets the bullet then so should the organ grinder.
 
nellyonthewing said:
This Season is a write off .Time just to consolidate and plan next campaign strategy.
If I were the the Owners I'd be kicking the ass of Txixi as he has spent a shed load of money and it doesn't look well spent at all.
If Pellers gets the bullet then so should the organ grinder.

Bloody hell the purge might extend to Doris the tea lady if we keep this up.
 

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