'Soccer'

Why Always Ste said:
bluebannana said:
with more mexicans each day moving to america football/soccer will get bigger

Eh?

Many Mexicans are flooding back to Mexico now, they can't get jobs in the states

If 1000 move to the states a month, while 400 leave, then the US is still getting 600 a month. I am not sure what article you read but just because some are leaving doesn't mean they aren't still coming over in droves.
 
It's getting more and more bigger and popular, there is no doubt about that.

From watching films and TV programme's i always thought Americans viewed 'soccer' as we view Tennis in this country. An elitist sport for the upper class and that is why it never stood up against the big 4 sports.

The MLS is a good league, the standard is good, the atmosphere's are good and the product is good. Certainly a lot better than the NASL from the past.

If it is ever going to challenge the NFL and NBA as the top sports in America on a serious note then in my opinion it needs 3 things.

1. It needs blanket coverage from every media outlet no matter how big or small. Someone made a good point about how it doesn't get great press because older writers know nothing about it. Take the LA Times website for example - <a class="postlink" href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.latimes.com/sports/</a> - there are no LA Galaxy tab and they are one of the biggest teams in the MLS.

2. It needs a american 'soccer' player on a global stage to challenge the likes of LeBron James. The yanks go mad for one of their own.

3. More time, it'll keep getting bigger and bigger, more generations will take it up earlier and it will become bigger and bigger.
 
unlikelyfan19 said:
Why Always Ste said:
bluebannana said:
with more mexicans each day moving to america football/soccer will get bigger

Eh?

Many Mexicans are flooding back to Mexico now, they can't get jobs in the states

If 1000 move to the states a month, while 400 leave, then the US is still getting 600 a month. I am not sure what article you read but just because some are leaving doesn't mean they aren't still coming over in droves.

(CNN) -- Our analysis of Mexican and U.S. data sources indicates that at least as many Mexicans and their families are leaving the United States as are arriving in the United States from Mexico. As a result, the Mexican-born population in the United States decreased from 12.6 million in 2007 to 12 million in 2011.

Full Article:

<a class="postlink" href="http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/26/opinion/passel-cohn-mexican-immigration/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/26/opini ... index.html</a>


Also,watching the Newcastle Vs. Spurs match, anyone notice this Advert on the boards?

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/t0Qoq.jpg[/bigimg]

Soccer Portal??

Lol, you know this advert is targeted towards the US market.
 
Why Always Ste said:
unlikelyfan19 said:
Why Always Ste said:
Eh?

Many Mexicans are flooding back to Mexico now, they can't get jobs in the states

If 1000 move to the states a month, while 400 leave, then the US is still getting 600 a month. I am not sure what article you read but just because some are leaving doesn't mean they aren't still coming over in droves.

(CNN) -- Our analysis of Mexican and U.S. data sources indicates that at least as many Mexicans and their families are leaving the United States as are arriving in the United States from Mexico. As a result, the Mexican-born population in the United States decreased from 12.6 million in 2007 to 12 million in 2011.

Full Article:

<a class="postlink" href="http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/26/opinion/passel-cohn-mexican-immigration/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/26/opini ... index.html</a>


Also,watching the Newcastle Vs. Spurs match, anyone notice this Advert on the boards?

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/t0Qoq.jpg[/bigimg]

Soccer Portal??

Lol, you know this advert is targeted towards the US market.

Indonesian website :o
 
Indonesians know the sport as Soccer?
hmm.. always presumed it was a americanism this word, and everyone else had their own spelling such as Futbol, Football, Futebol etc
 
I have always found the american "socialisation" of sport to be odd. For a country so enamoured with the free market, they employ a salary cap in football and equalise the playing field through the draft in american football. I dont know if this happens in other US sports.

The reason why the Prem is so loved is because it has a lot of the best players, it attracts so much talent through the wages it pays. For the MSL to compete it would have to pay those wages and then it may grow huge.

And i really dont get why anyone anywhere could watch basketball, it is the singular most pointless boring sport in existence.
 
Why Always Ste said:
Indonesians know the sport as Soccer?
hmm.. always presumed it was a americanism this word, and everyone else had their own spelling such as Futbol, Football, Futebol etc

The word itself is English. We started it... then didn't want it. Australia also call it Soccer as does Southern India.
 
The PL would be much more popular here if not for the time difference. It's especially bad for the West Coast where most matches have kickoff times of 7AM or earlier.
 
Why Always Ste said:
Indonesians know the sport as Soccer?
hmm.. always presumed it was a americanism this word, and everyone else had their own spelling such as Futbol, Football, Futebol etc

Nope, you can blame the English for that term :)
 
Rascal said:
I have always found the american "socialisation" of sport to be odd. For a country so enamoured with the free market, they employ a salary cap in football and equalise the playing field through the draft in american football. I dont know if this happens in other US sports.

The reason why the Prem is so loved is because it has a lot of the best players, it attracts so much talent through the wages it pays. For the MSL to compete it would have to pay those wages and then it may grow huge.

And i really dont get why anyone anywhere could watch basketball, it is the singular most pointless boring sport in existence.

The is really big difference in the way American sports leagues and European sports leagues operate and the culture of the different fan bases.

The sports in the US are set up like this because each league is it's own corporation. Instead of having 32 separate NFL companies, each team is part of a single corporation. This allows the leagues to break anti-trust rules. In the US, teams that don't win don't get supported by their fans, in general. The amount of enthusiasm found in European football fans can only be found in American college Football and a few, individual franchises in other American sports. Because of this, American sports league put in place rules to ensure competitive balance. If they didn't do this, the league as a whole (as apposed to an individual owner like in Europe) suffers from the loss of revenue. Individual team owners in the US can still make more money through initiative and success, but it takes a really bone-headed owner to lose money. In this way, the teams operate much more like financially sound businesses and less like a Roman Abramovich d*** measuring contest.

The biggest reason that the NFL is the most popular league in the US is that no team stays bad for too long. With rare exceptions generally caused by horribly incompetent management, bad NFL teams will be good within a couple years. By selling this hope, which typically does manifest itself, the NFL is able to keep fans engaged even in bad years. In the US, a team like QPR (with no realistic chance to ever be a top EPL team) would just not be supported. US fans like and expect winners. Finally, very few American franchises have the 100+ year histories of English FC's that create generations of supporters.

The other thing to point out in the US. Besides soccer, the US has the best leagues and highest paying salaries in every sport that is popular in the US (rugby and cricket are not popular). So the established leagues have not had any competition in attracting players domestically or internationally since the ABA-NBA (basketball) and AFL-NFL (American football) mergers of the 1970's. The American leagues have been able to run things however the want, and due to their similarity have created a sporting culture the American fan has come to expect. This is why the MLS is in a tough situation of having the cater to expectations of the American fan while playing within the rules of Global Football.

The idea of celebrating a 17th place finish and avoiding relegation is extremely foreign to US fans.
 

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