solor panels

[g.dog marshall.]

all of a sudden these eyesores are popping up on council house roof's all over stockport ,they look like the old terraced street covered in satallite dishes.what's people's opinion on these things.

 

[glen quagmire]

They aren't solar panels mate, they are 'daylight panels'. They don't store electricity butb they do give the scumbags free leccy during the day.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Manchester Sun, what is this strange phenomenon you talk about

 

[rambo]

One of my pet hates the incorrect use of the description 'Solar Panels'. All these things appearing on roofs all over the country are photovoltaic panels which convert the light into electricity which is put back into the national grid, and the household is given a credit against there bill.
They will NEVER payback.....they will have broken long before the payback period.

Solar panels are tubes which are filled with special liquid which heats up your hot water and are used extensively on the continent where its Sunny, and no use here.

These companies offering the Photovoltaic panels are conning everybody along with the Government.

And while I'm on a roll, the companies offering to insulate your house on the cheap by applying for a grant on your behalf..... its all paid for by the Government who are getting the money from the Energy companies....hence the increase in Energy costs. We are all paying for our own Grants !!!!!!!!

Aren't I a miserable git ;-)

 

[unsworthblue]

government backed for upto 25 years,15% return on your investment blah blah!!! i'm not having it,in 3 or 4 years time people will be on watchdog and some of these conmen will be going to jail over these scams

 

[PJMCC1UK]

One of my pet hates the incorrect use of the description 'Solar Panels'. All these things appearing on roofs all over the country are photovoltaic panels which convert the light into electricity which is put back into the national grid, and the household is given a credit against there bill.
They will NEVER payback.....they will have broken long before the payback period.

Solar panels are tubes which are filled with special liquid which heats up your hot water and are used extensively on the continent where its Sunny, and no use here.

These companies offering the Photovoltaic panels are conning everybody along with the Government.

And while I'm on a roll, the companies offering to insulate your house on the cheap by applying for a grant on your behalf..... its all paid for by the Government who are getting the money from the Energy companies....hence the increase in Energy costs. We are all paying for our own Grants !!!!!!!!

Aren't I a miserable git ;-)

No you're a wise man.
To add, wind turbines are a waste of time too. But we're paying to put them up with tax money. Common sense is missing in the powerhouses of this country

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

One of my pet hates the incorrect use of the description 'Solar Panels'. All these things appearing on roofs all over the country are photovoltaic panels which convert the light into electricity which is put back into the national grid, and the household is given a credit against there bill.
They will NEVER payback.....they will have broken long before the payback period.

Solar panels are tubes which are filled with special liquid which heats up your hot water and are used extensively on the continent where its Sunny, and no use here.

These companies offering the Photovoltaic panels are conning everybody along with the Government.

And while I'm on a roll, the companies offering to insulate your house on the cheap by applying for a grant on your behalf..... its all paid for by the Government who are getting the money from the Energy companies....hence the increase in Energy costs. We are all paying for our own Grants !!!!!!!!

Aren't I a miserable git ;-)

No you're a wise man.
To add, wind turbines are a waste of time too. But we're paying to put them up with tax money. Common sense is missing in the powerhouses of this country

If we fully exploited wind turbines and tidal barrage generators on every coastline in this country we wouldn't have to burn any coal or oil ever again. If you ask me, we don't invest heavily enough. Can you imagine the money we might save in the long term from importing? Especially as the price of oil is rocketing.

Having your own generators at home isn't that profitable at the moment I agree. It will get cheaper as time goes on though.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Utter luddite shite being spouted here.....as said, not 'solar panels' as in in Med countries.....but photo panels that provide electricity.....many where I live and doing well in reducing resident's bills....

 

[shadygiz]

chp generators are the way to go....they burn fuel to produce electricity...the heat generated warms the property and the electric is fed back into the grid.

even air to air & ground source heat pump boilers are starting to grow on a domestic scale

i am currently working on a new design for a flagship sainsburys next to the thames....thames water have given permission for sainsburys to bore into the thames. pipe coils are dropped into the bore holes to reject heat into the ground and also extract heat from the ground. You'd be suprised how efficient our planets soil is at trapping heat. We can get around 10-15 degrees of heat out of a bore hole, even if the external temperature is below zero degrees.

Heat rejection from the internal fridges in the store is diverted to serve areas of the store that require heat....the leftover redundant heat is rejected back into the ground. On cooler days in winter, heat is taken from the ground and fed into the store to keep the heating costs down

 

[PJMCC1UK]

If we fully exploited wind turbines and tidal barrage generators on every coastline in this country we wouldn't have to burn any coal or oil ever again. If you ask me, we don't invest heavily enough. Can you imagine the money we might save in the long term from importing? Especially as the price of oil is rocketing.

Having your own generators at home isn't that profitable at the moment I agree. It will get cheaper as time goes on though.

Wind turbines are only 26% efficient. In their life time they will not make the money back that it took to build them and the fields where they stand. If the wind is too soft they don't turn for obvious reasons. If it's too strong they don't turn because they're deemed unsafe.
They are part of the biggest green con going.
Those at sea are a little different because the wind turns them more but they're still not efficient. And we need power at different levels at different times. Wind and wave power is too unreliable. Watched the story of the national grid on bbc4 where they showed the people who predict when more power is needed. i.e. as Eastenders ends they have to ring power stations to tell them to produce more.