Sorry about this...

[Ducado]

And I appreciated your honest and frank reply.

Generally we're always frank and honest on this sort of stuff when asked but you'd be surprised at how rarely we're ever asked. I'll always tell you if I've banned you, and you'll probably know it's me by the fact of a temp ban which is my preferred method of crowd control. We get a lot of pissed off and pissed up users who aren't really malicious or anything but get caught up in the moment like the best of us - I'm no angel in this regard either and have been given the night off a few times when maybe an argument has gone too far. Bans that last a few hours diffuse the situation but don't tend to do any lasting damage - very much an attempt to separate and allow cooler heads to prevail rather than a proper punishment. Not particularly big on warnings myself though many of the mods use them as a way of letting the posters know that things have gotten out of hand; suppose I'm a bit stricter in that regard as Ducado and others will give people a warning so that they calm down whereas I give them a few hours or if they've done something really bad, a few weeks. I ban less but ban harsher whereas others warn more but do so more often. We've all got our preferences that we bring to the table and Ric sort of sits over us as a benevolent overlord if we overstep. Funny post in the Mod Forum the other day that had me laughing was when someone was discussing a user who was temp banned and the mod complained that they had already had a ban recently "but fucking Kofi Annan over here let them back on", referring to Ric which is jokingly accurate on the way we do things, and the type of attitude we try to bring

Anyway, glad we're sorted now mate :)

Damo is right. we all have different ways of dealing with things and have different levels of tollerance. i'll tell someone to stfu if they post shit rather than warnings and that. short bans are handy as the poster usually sees they have gone too far right away. it would have to be something incrediblibly bad for me to perma ban anyone, this forum is mainly for blues and we want blues around to have their say.

the op in this thread shows no doors are closed. he's been a right c**t in the past. but a blue c**t.

All very true, although on the rare occasions that I am on the match day thread I could quite happily ban about 20 such is the level of hysteria

 

[BlueHammer85]

He got lucky. Me and Ducado seemed to have tried to moderate it at the same time, which is a very rare event but does happen in the hustle and bustle sometimes - he gave a warning to both whereas I gave out a short temporary ban to both. Whereas your temp ban stuck, I seemed to have not confirmed his temp ban probably due to something else coming up (if you recall the server was playing up that night and that really is my area of expertise rather than moderation). This was a mistake that I made due to time constraints and not a personal agenda against you or in favour of the other poster. Just to be aware that I have never met the other person in real life and have absolutely no relationship with them at all. I went to ban them but there's a confirmation screen afterwards which I didn't seem to hit with them which sounds like something that I'd do because I work in several tabs at once and cycle between them frequently.

As rare as little things like this happen on a forum that serves thousands of users and has thousands of posts per night, unfortunately they do happen.

Like most of these situations that we're asked to explain, it comes down to a simple mistake or lack of the full context rather than any malice or forethought.

And I appreciated your honest and frank reply.

Generally we're always frank and honest on this sort of stuff when asked but you'd be surprised at how rarely we're ever asked. I'll always tell you if I've banned you, and you'll probably know it's me by the fact of a temp ban which is my preferred method of crowd control. We get a lot of pissed off and pissed up users who aren't really malicious or anything but get caught up in the moment like the best of us - I'm no angel in this regard either and have been given the night off a few times when maybe an argument has gone too far. Bans that last a few hours diffuse the situation but don't tend to do any lasting damage - very much an attempt to separate and allow cooler heads to prevail rather than a proper punishment. Not particularly big on warnings myself though many of the mods use them as a way of letting the posters know that things have gotten out of hand; suppose I'm a bit stricter in that regard as Ducado and others will give people a warning so that they calm down whereas I give them a few hours or if they've done something really bad, a few weeks. I ban less but ban harsher whereas others warn more but do so more often. We've all got our preferences that we bring to the table and Ric sort of sits over us as a benevolent overlord if we overstep. Funny post in the Mod Forum the other day that had me laughing was when someone was discussing a user who was temp banned and the mod complained that they had already had a ban recently "but fucking Kofi Annan over here let them back on", referring to Ric which is jokingly accurate on the way we do things, and the type of attitude we try to bring

Anyway, glad we're sorted now mate :)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I was only saying to the several of the Mods last time I had a beer in their company what a tremendous source of pride it is to me that I've never been banned. I won't repeat what they said in response, but it's always nice to feel you can express yourself without fear of reprisals.

 

[stonerblue]

really !! Take a look at what was said me and then my reply,and explain
My ban and not his.

He got lucky. Me and Ducado seemed to have tried to moderate it at the same time, which is a very rare event but does happen in the hustle and bustle sometimes - he gave a warning to both whereas I gave out a short temporary ban to both. Whereas your temp ban stuck, I seemed to have not confirmed his temp ban probably due to something else coming up (if you recall the server was playing up that night and that really is my area of expertise rather than moderation). This was a mistake that I made due to time constraints and not a personal agenda against you or in favour of the other poster. Just to be aware that I have never met the other person in real life and have absolutely no relationship with them at all. I went to ban them but there's a confirmation screen afterwards which I didn't seem to hit with them which sounds like something that I'd do because I work in several tabs at once and cycle between them frequently.

As rare as little things like this happen on a forum that serves thousands of users and has thousands of posts per night, unfortunately they do happen.

Like most of these situations that we're asked to explain, it comes down to a simple mistake or lack of the full context rather than any malice or forethought.

Surely this post is lifted straight from the contrite speeches section of 'What to say on Telly- An MP's Guide'.

 

[malg]

I was only saying to the several of the Mods last time I had a beer in their company what a tremendous source of pride it is to me that I've never been banned. I won't repeat what they said in response, but it's always nice to feel you can express yourself without fear of reprisals.

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[Ducado]

I was only saying to the several of the Mods last time I had a beer in their company what a tremendous source of pride it is to me that I've never been banned. I won't repeat what they said in response, but it's always nice to feel you can express yourself without fear of reprisals.

I am often tempted to ban you just for the fun of it

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I was only saying to the several of the Mods last time I had a beer in their company what a tremendous source of pride it is to me that I've never been banned. I won't repeat what they said in response, but it's always nice to feel you can express yourself without fear of reprisals.

I am often tempted to ban you just for the fun of it

I don't doubt that for a second :-)

 

[Damocles]

really !! Take a look at what was said me and then my reply,and explain
My ban and not his.

He got lucky. Me and Ducado seemed to have tried to moderate it at the same time, which is a very rare event but does happen in the hustle and bustle sometimes - he gave a warning to both whereas I gave out a short temporary ban to both. Whereas your temp ban stuck, I seemed to have not confirmed his temp ban probably due to something else coming up (if you recall the server was playing up that night and that really is my area of expertise rather than moderation). This was a mistake that I made due to time constraints and not a personal agenda against you or in favour of the other poster. Just to be aware that I have never met the other person in real life and have absolutely no relationship with them at all. I went to ban them but there's a confirmation screen afterwards which I didn't seem to hit with them which sounds like something that I'd do because I work in several tabs at once and cycle between them frequently.

As rare as little things like this happen on a forum that serves thousands of users and has thousands of posts per night, unfortunately they do happen.

Like most of these situations that we're asked to explain, it comes down to a simple mistake or lack of the full context rather than any malice or forethought.

Surely this post is lifted straight from the contrite speeches section of 'What to say on Telly- An MP's Guide'.

Nope. I recognised the situation, took responsibility for it and apologised. That's 3 things that politicians are trained never to do under any circumstances

 

[bluegirl74]

At the risk of opening a can of worms, would this be a good time to request the temporary return of fetters? Preferably just for a few days in the run up to the May and July Chester race meetings? His tips last year were spot on :-)

 

[malg]

At the risk of opening a can of worms, would this be a good time to request the temporary return of fetters? Preferably just for a few days in the run up to the May and July Chester race meetings? His tips last year were spot on :-)

Christ almighty no.