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For the people saying there’s a lot of entitled fans and it’s just a draw.

We’ve just drawn to the second worst side in premier league history and across two games against that side we’ve scored 1 goal. They’ve conceded 83 goals this season and got twelve points this season.

We should be beating them comfortably. Dias rant at full time was childish and unsportsmanlike it’s not their fault we couldn’t break them down maybe the players on the pitch need to look at themselves. There was more than enough talent in that City team to win this game.

The fact that we have had opposition players go on podcasts this season and say city are easier than Arsenal and Liverpool to defend against as they get a breather with us and just have to keep their shape and wait for an opportunity, should say all we need to know about how we play this season.
 
SiMCFC said:
Rubbish. Any other Manager would have had to adapt the system a bit and played to our strengths, Pep hasn't done that for the best part of 2 years now.

Honestly some people are so blinded by what he has done in the past, he (and his coaches) have literally sleepwalked this team through a full season.

He still has a better starting 11 available than probably every other team except Liverpool, just doesn't want to/totally unwilling to gamble, see his previous with lack of use of youth players.
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Don't agree just look at other teams in this league who have spent billions to be nowhere!
 
noseve said:
Based upon what, though - his inspired substitutions :-) ?

I'm a fan of his, but have been consistently gobsmacked by some decisions this season.

Please answer without mentioning 4 in-a-row...
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The general fanbase, the away fans, they all sing thank fuck we've got gaurdiola. The fanbase in general know we have the best manager.

The only manager better than Pep this year is Slot and Arteta. Are they really better?

We've been here before, pep turned it around we went in to win the things you would like to ignore in this.

The players we are buying right now are for pep. I hope the club don't go all United and start listening to an expectant and entitled fanbase sacking every manager that doesn't give immediate and ever lasting success. Things take time. We could be on the verge of another special run of success.



Right your turn, mention why pep is shite but don't bring up this failed season.
 
SiMCFC said:
Rubbish. Any other Manager would have had to adapt the system a bit and played to our strengths, Pep hasn't done that for the best part of 2 years now.

Honestly some people are so blinded by what he has done in the past, he (and his coaches) have literally sleepwalked this team through a full season.

He still has a better starting 11 available than probably every other team except Liverpool, just doesn't want to/totally unwilling to gamble, see his previous with lack of use of youth players.
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"....what he has done in the past."

You mean just last season winning an unprecedented 4th title in a row?

Some of you are so miserable and negative lately that you've lost your heads.

You're not being realists you're being utter pessimists.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
I'm not sure what Pep expected Southampton to do. They were never going to go toe-to-toe with us and at best they would but back and try to counter.

I genuinely don't understand what Pep was expecting from the same tired old players who've done the same thing all season. Slow, boring, possession based football where we could've won it but didn't. You don't win games on stats.

The only thing I thought was we are gambling on a top 5 place as a given and saving energy for the final. Personally I'm not arsed about the CL and think it's not one we can win and we would have a better chance of the EL though

I also think some of the new players need to adapt to a new league and style of play which is why we're not seeing them yet.

Something has to be done with Haaland too. Unless he scores it's like playing with 10 men. He feels like a luxury player at times. I'm coming to the conclusion he's the best striker in the world, but in the wrong team - a team that can't play to his strengths - and I know that sounds nonsense given his record.

As soon as the whistle is blown on the last game, vwrite the season off and sort next season out. Unless we change something rapidly then Club World Cup could kill next season too and we will be easily picked off in it. Pep has to learn from other managers now to introduce some "risk" to his game.

I get we were always due a drip off but I can't think of anything we've learnt this season. We don't know our best 11, barely anyone has improved, it's boring, passionless and I think we will need to spend big to get anywhere near where we were.
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Exactly all of the above first realised this …. Especially Haaland (who I love) many months ago best thing would be to cash in got to be worth £150m ….. then wait for him to destroy us next time our paths cross
But £100m profit and enough money to fix at least two or maybe three critical rebuild positions would be a fitting legacy
 
Keeper! said:
What chance?

It was a half chance, he was a yard off the pace yesterday, hardly surprising for a player that's missed the last month and a half, the question is should he have started?
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I was not being specific and using that chance as the example

I was simply saying the way players play has nothing to do with Peps marriage

If it does then we are in a worse position then we think.

Are we saying that Peps marriage or the way he feels affects the players to the extent that we give a 3 goal lead away in one match?

If we are ok but that means we are weak
 
Bluemoon115 said:
I mean fucking finally, we've accepted and sort of loved Nunes at the back, so he takes him out of the team.

And don't anyone suggest Haaland is "the problem". Haaland is the greatest finishing striker in the modern game.

Pep is the problem for having no idea how to get anything out of him.
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Yes he is a great finisher but he needs enablers for him. Unfortunately our enablers (Kev, Phil and Bernie) are not at it and so by default, neither is Haaland. Until we have the players able to give him the service, playing him makes us weaker imo.
 
lionheart said:
Just reading about Ruben Dias and his rant about Southampton's time wasting tactics. What he forgot to mention was that the referee actually allowed 10 minutes stoppage time, despite only 7 minutes being officially allocated. No excuse for failing to convert our chances. We also need to improve our corner taking as they were all wasted.
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I think our set pieces could possibly be the worst in the league but in what world would a referee give City an extra 3 minutes to find a goal?He blew up on 7 mins and 30 secs as Southampton had brought on 2 subs in added time…
 
Posted earlier we needed wingers on now Pep comes on says he saw it after 10 mins but did nothing.... Unbelievable......
 
Blue Maverick said:
Overlapping full backs get to the fucking byline and cross or pull back to penalty spot. Oh and shoot from outside the box, you may lose possession but if opposition is all in their own box they ain’t breaking away.
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Exactly, if Vinny doesn’t shoot in 2019 we don’t win the league, it’s stupid to blame the opposition tactics.
 
mayo31 said:
I was not being specific and using that chance as the example

I was simply saying the way players play has nothing to do with Peps marriage

If it does then we are in a worse position then we think.

Are we saying that Peps marriage or the way he feels affects the players to the extent that we give a 3 goal lead away in one match?

If we are ok but that means we are weak
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A marriage break up is a serious emotional issue and it's clearly affected Pep and his thinking, it would be weird if it has not.

But again that is irrelevant in terms of the club, as said earlier the club need to tell him to sort out the issue or maybe it's time to part ways.

What the manager has achieved is incredible, historical but that's now in the past, the most important thing is the future of our club, not individuals.
 
mayo31 said:
I was not being specific and using that chance as the example

I was simply saying the way players play has nothing to do with Peps marriage

If it does then we are in a worse position then we think.

Are we saying that Peps marriage or the way he feels affects the players to the extent that we give a 3 goal lead away in one match?

If we are ok but that means we are weak
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You arent being specific but you use another specific example

Im not sure youre getting what people are saying to be honest
 
Keeper! said:
A marriage break up is a serious emotional issue and it's clearly affected Pep and his thinking, it would be weird if it has not.

But again that is irrelevant in terms of the club, as said earlier the club need to tell him to sort out the issue or maybe it's time to part ways.

What the manager has achieved is incredible, historical but that's now in the past, the most important thing is the future of our club, not individuals.
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Fergie stayed a year too long …
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Doku and Sav are spurs level players. No where near the level required to challenge at the top.
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Thats,what ive been saying whole season. No way to challenge for premier league and champions league without goal contributions from our wingers. Savio hasn´t improved one bit from the start of the season.
 
The first question the board should be asking Txiki and Pep is how you can you spend £200 in January, more that every other PL team combined, and not have one of those players starting the game yesterday. In fact half of the players bought aren’t even on the bench.

£200m spent to guarantee we get at least top 5. We could be 6th by the time we play again.

Absolute shit show.
 
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