Southampton (H) | PL | Post-Match Thread

It wasn’t a great game and we could have done better but Southampton played the best they have played all season, if only they could play like that in every game they would be a top 6 team glad we got over the line with no silly goal conceded although if we had one suspects that we would have won 4-1

Southampton did not play like charlies, any more than Wolves did. Neither of them are any great shakes, but I don't think we're seeing the cannon fodder teams that have normally been down at the bottom at this stage in past seasons, with the single probable exception of Ipswich. Neither Wolves nor Southampton look like proper nailed-on relegation teams to me, at this point.
Just watched the first half (wasn't able to yesterday). Not great, for sure, but a game of football. Plenty of decent crosses coming in, especially from Nunes. Maybe the second half will be worse, but I see no reason whatsoever to say that what I've just seen was garbage, as some on here are saying. Erling's goal is quite odd. He expects it, I think, to get to his right foot, realises it's not going to, and has to change foot virtually in mid-air. His ability to improvise is quite amazing, as we saw with the goal against Sparta.
 
I understand exactly what you're saying. I too was at the final in ’74, although weirdly I seem to have excised it from my memory, because I can recall nothing specific about that match, other than that we lost. (I was also at the ’81 match — too young for ’69 — so I wasn't too lucky with seeing us win finals until we beat Arsenal in, yes, the League Cup in 2018! So I have a particular affection for the competition…)
It's worth repeating that it was the last serious trophy we won — with that memorable goal from Tueart — before we started the long drift into the crossing of the wilderness that lasted for twenty years (or more, depending on how you look at it).
But let's look at it clear sightedly. Yes, the League Cup will be abandoned. But let's tell it like it is — it will have, in effect, been forced out, by the greed of the PL, the greed of UEFA, the greed of FIFA. With all the extra games in competitions that truly don't interest me very much (especially the League of Nations, which UEFA pulled from their arse, and which it took a while for me to even understand what it was, vacuous European club competitions like the Europa Conference League, the ever-expanding cash cow or goose that lays the not very golden egg in the form of the Champions League, the now expanding World Club Championship) there are now just too many games for players at the top clubs, especially those in England, and I do believe we're seeing the results in terms of injuries.
The League Cup was never the premier competition of course, but it was an indigenous competition, by and for the members of the four divisions that make up the English football league. As such it shouldn't be sneered at, by anyone.
And yes — with a heavy heart — I am resigned to us throwing this match, because I just don't see what alternative there is. But I repeat: we the fans, and the players, and the clubs, have been railroaded by governing bodies that we appear to have absolutely no control over. Gradually, I think, I'm falling out of love with football.

My love of football will remain for as long as I am alive and well to enjoy it but the way the game is run is a source of annoyance.

The League Cup in isolation is a funny one and a bit of an oddity: two domestic up competitions is unusual but a constant in my lifetime. That domestic up competitions have become devalued in the way they have is sad. The FA Cup was a very special competition but far less so now.
 
Just back after attending yesterday. Very nice curry in the evening from Tito's in Prestwich. Delighted to have won but should have wrapped it up well before the end making for a nervy last 10 minutes. I thought Kova was very good, back four were good.
Kudos to Soton for trying to play football, luckily they were pretty toothless up front.
Had a pint in a pub across from Titos, the Railway & something????....mental place.
 

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