Spurs’ new stadium

The Preacher said:
Bollocks being spouted in some quarters of Twickenham as a possible venue. Can’t do that, surely? Three different stadia in a season?
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The FA will probably allow it, but they'll make sure they absolutely are only permitted to do it at most a few more times or they'll face a stern lecture.
 
M18CTID said:
Shit does indeed happen but all 3 of those examples you have cited were down to the weather which is beyond the control of anybody. This is different in that while I accept that delays will happen when building a new stadium, there have been rumours abound for ages that it wasn't going to be ready for the grand opening on September 15th against Liverpool and sure enough, that's proven to be exactly the case. As soon as Sky announced their October picks and Spurs v City was moved to Sunday 28th October then our fans had every right to book travel and accommodation based on that, safe in the knowledge that barring a so-called "act of God" the fixture would be played on that date and at that venue.

My suspicion is that Spurs have known for a while that the ground probably wouldn't be ready in time for the Liverpool home game and have been sat on this info, yet they've waited until after the announcing of the second tranche of TV fixtures before disclosing it. Now that's fine if you support Liverpool or Cardiff because those games will still take place in London at the advertised kick-off time so fans of both those clubs won't have to alter their arrangements, but if our game doesn't go ahead in London at the advertised date and time then it will fuck it up for all those fans who have already made arrangements with regard to travel/accommodation, etc.
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The Sunderland and Mönchengladbach games were called off due to concern for the safety of the supporters, not because the pitch was unplayable. The cause of concern for the safety of supporters may be different but the reason for postponing would be exactly the same (Supporter Safety).

It has fucked up my plans, but Spurs aren't preventing me from using the hotel I've booked so in a court of law, I dont see what justification there is for them to give me my money back. The hotel booking is still valid. If it gets postponed then it will be my choice not to use it.

My mates had booked a hotel for Peter Kays tour and they had tickets. He cancelled the tour and they got the money for the tickets back. They've not been petitioning Peter Kay that he needs to pay them back for the hotel they no longer need.
 
cptaidan88 said:
The Sunderland and Mönchengladbach games were called off due to concern for the safety of the supporters, not because the pitch was unplayable. The cause of concern for the safety of supporters may be different but the reason for postponing would be exactly the same (Supporter Safety).

It has fucked up my plans, but Spurs aren't preventing me from using the hotel I've booked so in a court of law, I dont see what justification there is for them to give me my money back. The hotel booking is still valid. If it gets postponed then it will be my choice not to use it.

My mates had booked a hotel for Peter Kays tour and they had tickets. He cancelled the tour and they got the money for the tickets back. They've not been petitioning Peter Kay that he needs to pay them back for the hotel they no longer need.
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Yep. Basically, if he'd sold the tour tickets knowing it wasn't going ahead, then they could have had a claim on the hotel. But he didn't so they don't. Incidentally, this is why when people book holidays they are covered if they book components together so it qualifies as a package under the Package Travel Regulations. If booked separately and the flight is cancelled, tough. If booked together then the tour operator assumes responsibility for the whole thing.
 
M18CTID said:
JimB is a good poster mate and obviously very knowledgeable about the goings-on at Spurs. Like any fan, he'll defend his club if he sees fit and there's nothing wrong with that.

However, I do think it was always going to be a very optimistic ask to get the stadium ready in time and I can't help but think that Levy and Spurs saw this coming a while ago. For me, when they negotiated to play all their home games at Wembley last season they'd have been better off extending that agreement to this season too.

It's a proper pisser for any of our fans who have already booked travel/accomodation for the game in October and it gets shifted. If it stays on the Sunday and is played somewhere in London then it's not such an issue but if they change the date or move it our place then all fans who have forked out for non-refundable travel/accomodation costs should be reimbursed.
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this ... train and hotel booked £130 so not a fortune but bloody annoying
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
The FA will probably allow it, but they'll make sure they absolutely are only permitted to do it at most a few more times or they'll face a stern lecture.
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I like it! Funny - but, alas, probably true. It seems some clubs - and that does not include us - can twist the FA around their crooked little fingers.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
The FA will probably allow it, but they'll make sure they absolutely are only permitted to do it at most a few more times or they'll face a stern lecture.
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The Preacher said:
I like it! Funny - but, alas, probably true. It seems some clubs - and that does not include us - can twist the FA around their crooked little fingers.
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Not the FA's decision this is for the PL board to decide and as its was the PL shareholders, the club, who sanctioned the move of the Fulham game my guess would be that they will have been consulted about the other two I can see them being seriously pissed about the possibility of even more games
 
Years ago I might have got het up about this kind of stuff, now I cannot be arsed as while loads will vent on forums, twitter and other social media outlets, what will happen will not be because of what the fans think but because money will dictate.

They do not give a fuck about the inconvenience this will cause fans or any potential extra cost because in reality we don't either as we will turn up.

So as an aside I will be trying to organise a coach to the match, the advantage of this is we will get there whenever it is played at the same cost - PM if interested
 
JimB said:
Hardly.

This stadium build is a massive, complex construction project that had an incredibly tight schedule. Despite this, the stadium remained on course to open on 15th September (albeit with some jobs yet to be completed) until the first test event exposed serious issues with safety systems. So the stadium will be delayed by a further month or so. Disappointing, certainly. But not farcical. Anyone in the construction industry will tell you that, on such big projects, such delays are commonplace.

Once the stadium opens and everyone sees how impressive it really is, the couple of months' delay will soon be forgotten.
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You make some valid points, but unfortunately for you they all back up what a ridiculous decision it was to attempt this build in such a tight timescale. Spurs fans talk as though this cut-off date was arbitrarily foisted upon them by outside forces, when it was in fact the club's decision to impose this incredibly tight schedule on themselves.

As you say, delays are commonplace in major construction projects, so this could easily have been foreseen. Typical penny pinching by Levy. He didn't want to bear the costs of an additional season at Wembley and now expects the rest of the league to just put up with the inconvenience.
 
Gordyola said:
Not the FA's decision this is for the PL board to decide and as its was the PL shareholders, the club, who sanctioned the move of the Fulham game my guess would be that they will have been consulted about the other two I can see them being seriously pissed about the possibility of even more games
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You're right, of course. I also agree that this is very serious for the PL as any more concessions they give to Spurs will set a very dangerous precedent.
 
From the perspective of the competition, it's not good at all and Levy, as the person in charge is culpable. He is ultimately responsible.

I do have a degree of sympathy with Spurs fans as a lot of them hate playing at Wembley and they don't know where they will be playing all of their games. It takes my missus around 30mins to WHL. If they play at MK or Twickenham, it will be 1.5hrs each way. Saying that, i am already looking forward to the additional peace and quiete i will have :). Meanwhile, Levy has already banked the ticket money when he would surely have known about the delays and inconvenience to the fans. He's a devious man.
 
The Preacher said:
I like it! Funny - but, alas, probably true. It seems some clubs - and that does not include us - can twist the FA around their crooked little fingers.
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States in today's Evening Standard that Levy has a very good relationship with Scudamore, too right he does.
 
Dubai Blue said:
You make some valid points, but unfortunately for you they all back up what a ridiculous decision it was to attempt this build in such a tight timescale. Spurs fans talk as though this cut-off date was arbitrarily foisted upon them by outside forces, when it was in fact the club's decision to impose this incredibly tight schedule on themselves.

As you say, delays are commonplace in major construction projects, so this could easily have been foreseen. Typical penny pinching by Levy. He didn't want to bear the costs of an additional season at Wembley and now expects the rest of the league to just put up with the inconvenience.
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Your right. Spurs and Levy are a disgrace. This was entirely predictable. That project giving modern building techniques, quality and safety standards required at least 4-6 months longer than they planned for. It was obvious to anybody( one would have thought the PL would have been most aware of all) that the timeline could not be safely adhered to. Now we have this mess which would have been avoided in the Spuds had moved to Headquaters for two seasons instead of one. I hope they don't win the league for at least another 20 years!!!
 
Gordyola said:
Not the FA's decision this is for the PL board to decide and as its was the PL shareholders, the club, who sanctioned the move of the Fulham game my guess would be that they will have been consulted about the other two I can see them being seriously pissed about the possibility of even more games
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Yes. Thanks for the correction.
 
if this was manchester city the book would be throw at us and points and money would be taken off us even relegation could be a option mark my words IF IT WAS US, but its spurs and a good club in the eyes of the premier league and the media, and they like united can not be touch because they don't have a money bag's owners and seen to be not buying silverware ????

spurs have broken the rules and should be made to pay for it and punishment should be coming, spurs knew the rules and asked for a little bit of extra time but promised to be ready on time, spurs will be looking for compensation from the building company involved when missing the deadlines so its only right the premier league should punish spurs
 
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