Spurs’ new stadium

grant1977 said:
This is now being blamed for Crossrail being delayed as it’s taking all required skills....apparently
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what? so there will be a track running across the pitch and one goal mouth will also hold a platform? What a fucking shitty excuse.
 
chaddblue said:
Maybe it was the only option, or the best option for our fans, that was offered
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They were able to move grounds at a drop of a hat fro a LC game. The options should have have been keeping the original date rather than City allow fans to be fucked about in such a disgusting way, and even have to go to that shit hole again.
 
Corky said:
They were able to move grounds at a drop of a hat fro a LC game. The options should have have been keeping the original date rather than City allow fans to be fucked about in such a disgusting way, and even have to go to that shit hole again.
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Totally agree it should be on the original date. Possibly they’ve been trying to get an alternative venue but maybe there is no suitable stadium available on that date, which is why it’s dragged on.

Hopefully City have been pushing for the best deal for our fans and (maybe naively) I’m hoping the 2 clubs and the PL are still in discussions about compensation for blues who have already paid out
 
chaddblue said:
Totally agree it should be on the original date. Possibly they’ve been trying to get an alternative venue but maybe there is no suitable stadium available on that date, which is why it’s dragged on.

Hopefully City have been pushing for the best deal for our fans and (maybe naively) I’m hoping the 2 clubs and the PL are still in discussions about compensation for blues who have already paid out
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There are 80 suitable stadiums that the ground could be held at, maybe half unavailable, but it would mean spurs losing money.

Compo for fans never happens, the early train fares are no much compared to two days off work, and no trains back on the Monday. Maybe they will allow £400 per fan for attending in liquidated damages. More realistically this should be free for City fans now.
 
chaddblue said:
Totally agree it should be on the original date. Possibly they’ve been trying to get an alternative venue but maybe there is no suitable stadium available on that date, which is why it’s dragged on.

Hopefully City have been pushing for the best deal for our fans and (maybe naively) I’m hoping the 2 clubs and the PL are still in discussions about compensation for blues who have already paid out
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From what I understand, the Monday night, Wembley agreement is just a contingency at this stage. Spurs still hope that the issue with the safety systems will be resolved by then and that the game will go ahead in the new stadium.
 
JimB said:
From what I understand, the Monday night, Wembley agreement is just a contingency at this stage. Spurs still hope that the issue with the safety systems will be resolved by then and that the game will go ahead in the new stadium.
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The Wembley pitch will be a turnip patch after 3 weeks of NFL players rucking it up. Totally unsuitable for football.
 
JimB said:
Try reading a little more carefully, mate. I very specifically and deliberately wrote "in the absence of a superrich benefactor". Joe Lewis might well be superrich. But he most certainly isn't a benefactor.
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I did read it carefully, and the definition of a benefactor in the OED is "a person who gives money or other help to a cause". If he hadn't given money to your club when they were in dire straights, somone else may have done, or you really would have been in the shit. To me that's a benefactor. Forget any altruistic reasons, that's what he did. Now he owns the club, he doesn't want to let the moths out of his (rather large) wallet and invest as our owner has done. That's his choice.
Either that, or like a lot of other superrich owners, he's only in it for the money and reflected prestige for if and when you eventually win something.

You've got what you deserve then,....mate.

;-)
 
crazyg said:
I did read it carefully, and the definition of a benefactor in the OED is "a person who gives money or other help to a cause". If he hadn't given money to your club when they were in dire straights, somone else may have done, or you really would have been in the shit. To me that's a benefactor. Forget any altruistic reasons, that's what he did. Now he owns the club, he doesn't want to let the moths out of his (rather large) wallet and invest as our owner has done. That's his choice.
Either that, or like a lot of other superrich owners, he's only in it for the money and reflected prestige for if and when you eventually win something.

You've got what you deserve then,....mate.

;-)
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Eh? Spurs were last in "dire straits" after the Irving Scholar fiasco in the early 90's. And they had to earn / sell / cut costs their way out of it. Alan Sugar wasn't going to give any money to anybody. Ever. Joe Lewis wasn't involved at all back then. And since he has been involved, there have been a couple of small share issues. That's all.

I respect that you have an opinion about Spurs and that it's not an especially flattering one. But I do hope that you can at least accept that I naturally know rather more about the goings on at Spurs than you do. ;-)

As to getting what I deserve, that seems to be something of a non sequitur. Perhaps you could clarify what point you're trying to make? Cheers.
 
JimB said:
Eh? Spurs were last in "dire straits" after the Irving Scholar fiasco in the early 90's. And they had to earn / sell / cut costs their way out of it. Alan Sugar wasn't going to give any money to anybody. Ever. Joe Lewis wasn't involved at all back then. And since he has been involved, there have been a couple of small share issues. That's all.

I respect that you have an opinion about Spurs and that it's not an especially flattering one. But I do hope that you can at least accept that I naturally know rather more about the goings on at Spurs than you do. ;-)

As to getting what I deserve, that seems to be something of a non sequitur. Perhaps you could clarify what point you're trying to make? Cheers.
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Sorry for the delay in replying, but I've just got back from our game.

So what you seem to be saying is that for at least 25 years, your club has been run by, basically, owners who have deeper pockets than their arms can reach the bottom of? Is that an apt description as that's how it looks from the outside. I have visions of Topol singing "If I was a rich Man" for some reason. ;-)

As for my opinion of Spurs I can not disagree that you know more about them than I do. It's only natural that you would. My only thoughts about them as a club are clouded by Ricky Villa's goal in 1981! It was an awful drive home that night. I've been to WHL many times in the past with no problems.

My final point is somewhat interlinked with my comments re your first point. The old expression "you have to speculate to accumulate" seems very true in a comparison between our respective owners. One has invested heavily, and one (or a series of owners) has not. One club has reaped the benefits of that investment, the other.............

This has got a little away from the topic at hand, but thanks for your time and patience.
 
Still think we should have insisted the fixture be played as scheduled or not at all. Not our fault Spuds not got a ground.
Wombley pitch will be utterly mashed up. Great way to injure players. Just hope City decision makers have made some serious demands on epl re reffing in exchange for agreeing to move the date and venue. No - I do not buy the media line that it was agreed between the clubs.
Maybe Alty Anthony will never be assigned a City game ever again ... worth it!
More like someone has been persuaded to show some sympathy - if so they need sacking and sectioning (as they have obviously completely lost it) - football is now about business, winning, money and entertaining the fans - It is not about giving spuds free reign to stomp all over the rules.
Personal opinion is latter option - sack and section.
Nightmare for away fans has not been thought of either. Are spuds going to refund all prepaid travel for away fans who can't make it? Thought not. Are spuds going to pay for additional trains and coaches for away fans? Thought not.
Really well run club - according to Wonga (whom they probably borrowed the money off for the new stadium) and House of Fraser (whom they most probably signed a contract with to outfit the players)!!
 
The Channel 4 political correspondent Michael Crick, a big rag, suggesting that the potential shift of City's game against Spurs to the Monday night would be accompanied by the Saturday lunchtime game involving the Rags and Everton being moved to the Sunday - presumably to the Super Sunday 4 pm slot to keep Sky happy:

 
es1 said:
confirmed monday 29th, 8pm at wembley

city will be providing free coach travel...

no mention of anything else yet
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I know they think they are doing right by fans, but they aren't really are they?

What about train tickets and hotel expenses that people now have to forfeit, they should have told Spurs to do one.
 
So Monday 29th Spurs at Wembley.

Saturday 3rd November Southampton at home.

League Cup round 4 is week commencing Monday 29th October.

What happens if we manage to sneak past Oxford in round 3?
 
Gray said:
I know they think they are doing right by fans, but they aren't really are they?

What about train tickets and hotel expenses that people now have to forfeit, they should have told Spurs to do one.
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you're absolutely right

i hope city don't think of this as job done, look at us, aren't we great etc.

i'm sure our fans (and spurs fans) dont have a legal leg to stand on regarding compensation but to both clubs it would be a drop in the ocean and a piece of real positive press if they opted to reimburse fans who've paid out for hotels and train tickets for the sunday
 
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