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[Tugay One Cup]

Erling shouldn't be joking around with Udogie, he should be doing everything possible to draw attention to the fact that he was, once again, getting wrestled to the ground at a corner.

Guehi shouldn't be there quietly holding his leg, he should be screaming in pain and demanding a free kick.

We are not on it. The ruthlessness left a long time ago and, unfortunately, we need to compensate for our shortcomings with common sense, hunger and gamesmanship.

But it doesn't happen. The opposition put in a couple of strong tackles, we miss a chance, a player gets injured and we totally deflate. For the last two seasons we haven't made opponents fight for points.

These players used to take what they wanted. Now they politely ask for what they're owed.

 

[mcfc315]

Two immediate ones that spring to mind are Leeds at home followed by Fulham away. Whilst both ended up wins, we got ourselves into trouble from comfortable positions.

Ah right so we we won both games in the end? Thought you'd come back with one where we've drawn or lost!

 

[bondsman]

Weirdly I feel exactly the same

My seat is only £450 for the season but I'm wondering whether I'd enjoy the Saturday golf comps more.....

Feels like I was stood at the Attaturk witnessing the end.... It doesn't get much better than that (especially after my Porto weekend was ruined)

I was there with my dad and brother maybe that was the zenith. I feel like there’s not passion/character left. The atmosphere at home games is dreadful. How the hell will we fill that new stand? I know we used to be shite I saw us. But we did not have the resources then to be otherwise. We are a different club with different standards now and I can’t believe how quickly we have dropped off. The league is poor so it’s flattering us at present but bar Liverpool we’ve not beaten a real rival in the league this year or last really. I don’t believe the players are giving their all but I cannot understand why pep is expecting different results when we set up and play the same way week to week. It’s horrible to watch at present no pace no power and our bench can never change games.

 

[bondsman]

Erling shouldn't be joking around with Udogie, he should be doing everything possible to draw attention to the fact that he was, once again, getting wrestled to the ground at a corner.

Guehi shouldn't be there quietly holding his leg, he should be screaming in pain and demanding a free kick.

We are not on it. The ruthlessness left a long time ago and, unfortunately, we need to compensate for our shortcomings with common sense, hunger and gamesmanship.

But it doesn't happen. The opposition put in a couple of strong tackles, we miss a chance, a player gets injured and we totally deflate. For the last two seasons we haven't made opponents fight for points.

These players used to take what they wanted. Now they politely ask for what they're owed.

Sadly it’s not the same players.

 

[Ken92]

They’ve only won twice at home in the league this season, Spurs being a tricky away day doesn’t really stack up when the last time City lost in the league there was 3 years ago during the treble winning season. They were awful first half and couldn’t string two passes together, they had no options moving moving the ball forward which resulted in the walking paced football that happened for most of the first half. That was the opportunity to absolutely hammer them into the ground.

Instead the team came out in the second half not switched on and as soon as their first goal was given you could see City fucking it up.

Newcastle will still think they are in the tie on Wednesday with how brittle the team’s confidence is. A goal goes in and the heads go down with zero leaders on the pitch.

Forget about the league and look behind us as there are four teams in much better shape work rate and momentum wise which is worrying.

Its weird that teams are si passive against us in the beginning, as soon as they upthe intensity and pressing in the second half, team can't play out of the back anymore, string passes together and just concede chance after chance so easily. Wouldn't think its a Pep team if i don't know it.

 

[Gordyola]

Did Rodders thank the ref for not giving him a second yellow ?

Refs will always have a higher standard for the second yellow even the prat yesterday He might though have asked why the standard for Spurs players was higher than a City player getting the first yellow He could have also added why the very late "tackle" on himself was not yellow carded, at least.

 

[Kamikaze Blue]

I watched the women give Chelsea a whupping yesterday. Wish I'd turned off the telly after that.

 

[paulchapo]

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I feel like I'm learning new rule adaptations I've never known before every week at the moment. You're allowed to go through the back of a defender to twat his leg onto the ball if the defender didn't have control of it. It's just an honest part of playing football. Who knew?! All the paid up pundits apply.

Honestly feel like I'm going mad.

 

[domalino]

It was a clear foul. We got bad decisions yesterday.

However, it feels like the club has been infected with this victim mentality. Always complaining about referees and injuries and how unfair it is. Complaining about too many games, Pep complaining that players aren't back from injury yet, complaining that 30+ year old players that have been injury prone their entire careers are still injury prone.

In the past, Pep would have said "if you don't referee us fairly we'll win against 12".

We were fucking shit yesterday, if we had scraped together even a 5/10 performance, we'd have been 3/4-0 up by half time and there would have been nothing the referees could fucking do. If we'd reacted after the first goal and started actually playing football, we'd have won the game comfortably, there'd be nothing the referee could do.

All we hear out of the club is complaining now.

It doesn't matter that it's true we've had some shit decisions against us. Whining about it isn't going to change anything. If we played at our best and Spurs we equal to it and then we got fucked by the refereeing decisions, that's one thing, but lumping it all on referees when you don't turn up and do your own job isn't going to earn any sympathy.

The mentality that saw us win all those trophies has totally gone.

 

[east2]

Haaland making a run at a corner? You’re dreaming!

I’d be interested to see the stats on first contact when he’s defending a corner versus attacking, a near post flick on, anything other than cheating by standing static on the goal line

 

[Gordyola]

We are basically Arsenal at the end of Wenger stage now imo, Pep can’t get this team and the mentality right

Nonsense. Second in the PL, Probably final of LC, 4th round FAC, Knockout of UCL

If Pe could leave tomorrow for a top replacement I think we all would go with that. He has become stale.

Nonsense and since when have you spoke on behalf of all Since you are all knowing would you like to suggest who this "top replacement" could be

sorry to be controversial.
no referring standard no excuses its just poor he needs to start winning football matches not making Palestine speeches doesn't seem like he's focused on the job in hand and I think he knows he's going

If you listened to his last PC he was asked about the refs and he pointed out that he hasn't complained ever in 10 seasons. Everyone gets to the point where they have had enough like Rodri said they work hard all week and get do by these clowns, for whatever reason be it incompetence or agenda.

If you think Pep isn't focused on the "job in hand" then, you clearly haven a clue about how hard he works Listen to people who have worked with him in the past listen to Pep Lijnders on Friday The man is obsessed Read some of the books about him this would be a start https://amzn.eu/d/6QEFSlK

 

[robbieh]

By the way Spurs lost last week to West Ham who couldn't buy a win.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

It was a clear foul. We got bad decisions yesterday.

However, it feels like the club has been infected with this victim mentality. Always complaining about referees and injuries and how unfair it is.

In the past, Pep would have said "if you don't referee us fairly we'll win against 12".

We were fucking shit yesterday, if we had scraped together even a 5/10 performance, we'd have been 3/4-0 up by half time and there would have been nothing the referees could fucking do. If we'd reacted after the first goal and started actually playing football, we'd have won the game comfortably.

All we hear out of the club is complaining now.

It doesn't matter that it's true we've had some shit decisions against us. Whining about it isn't going to change anything. If we played at our best and Spurs we equal to it and then we got fucked by the refereeing decisions, that's one thing, but lumping it all on referees when you don't turn up and do your own job isn't going to earn any sympathy.

The mentality that saw us win all those trophies has totally gone.

So we have to be 4 nil up at half time every game so awful decisions can't screw us over, and the manager/players should just suck it up? While every other team gets those decisions?

I wouldn't mind, but these last few decisions all in a row (the phantom offside at Newcastle, Dalot's foul on Doku, the handball from Wolves, the foul on Guehi) are all decisions that have been pretty universally accepted as unusual or even unprecedented. I certainly can't remember a run like this where the decisions against us seem to get more audacious with every match. How can that not affect the team?

As a side note, Rodri has always been like this. Even at his peak during the treble season and then his Ballon D'Or campaign, he frequently vented in post match media about perceived injustices. Doesn't mean he has a bad mentality.

 

[Palerider]

It was a clear foul. We got bad decisions yesterday.

However, it feels like the club has been infected with this victim mentality. Always complaining about referees and injuries and how unfair it is. Complaining about too many games, Pep complaining that players aren't back from injury yet, complaining that 30+ year old players that have been injury prone their entire careers are still injury prone.

In the past, Pep would have said "if you don't referee us fairly we'll win against 12".

We were fucking shit yesterday, if we had scraped together even a 5/10 performance, we'd have been 3/4-0 up by half time and there would have been nothing the referees could fucking do. If we'd reacted after the first goal and started actually playing football, we'd have won the game comfortably, there'd be nothing the referee could do.

All we hear out of the club is complaining now.

It doesn't matter that it's true we've had some shit decisions against us. Whining about it isn't going to change anything. If we played at our best and Spurs we equal to it and then we got fucked by the refereeing decisions, that's one thing, but lumping it all on referees when you don't turn up and do your own job isn't going to earn any sympathy.

The mentality that saw us win all those trophies has totally gone.

Yep, who could have guessed that a team 2-0 down at home and booed off at half by their own supporters would come out all guns firing for the second half? We were incredibly complacent and in any other job possibly negligent.

 

[cookster]

Anyone know our record since Rodri returned?
We were on a nice run until Nico got injured.

Not that I'm blaming Rodri BTW, just feels like somethings changed.
Nico does like a tackle and Rodri, understandably is backing out a bit due to the injuries.

 

[cookster]

It was a clear foul. We got bad decisions yesterday.

However, it feels like the club has been infected with this victim mentality. Always complaining about referees and injuries and how unfair it is. Complaining about too many games, Pep complaining that players aren't back from injury yet, complaining that 30+ year old players that have been injury prone their entire careers are still injury prone.

In the past, Pep would have said "if you don't referee us fairly we'll win against 12".

We were fucking shit yesterday, if we had scraped together even a 5/10 performance, we'd have been 3/4-0 up by half time and there would have been nothing the referees could fucking do. If we'd reacted after the first goal and started actually playing football, we'd have won the game comfortably, there'd be nothing the referee could do.

All we hear out of the club is complaining now.

It doesn't matter that it's true we've had some shit decisions against us. Whining about it isn't going to change anything. If we played at our best and Spurs we equal to it and then we got fucked by the refereeing decisions, that's one thing, but lumping it all on referees when you don't turn up and do your own job isn't going to earn any sympathy.

The mentality that saw us win all those trophies has totally gone.

Agree, all the points dropped could have been avoided with more clinical finishing and better game management.

 

[Gordyola]

It was a clear foul. We got bad decisions yesterday.

However, it feels like the club has been infected with this victim mentality. Always complaining about referees and injuries and how unfair it is. Complaining about too many games, Pep complaining that players aren't back from injury yet, complaining that 30+ year old players that have been injury prone their entire careers are still injury prone.

In the past, Pep would have said "if you don't referee us fairly we'll win against 12".

We were fucking shit yesterday, if we had scraped together even a 5/10 performance, we'd have been 3/4-0 up by half time and there would have been nothing the referees could fucking do. If we'd reacted after the first goal and started actually playing football, we'd have won the game comfortably, there'd be nothing the referee could do.

All we hear out of the club is complaining now.

It doesn't matter that it's true we've had some shit decisions against us. Whining about it isn't going to change anything. If we played at our best and Spurs we equal to it and then we got fucked by the refereeing decisions, that's one thing, but lumping it all on referees when you don't turn up and do your own job isn't going to earn any sympathy.

The mentality that saw us win all those trophies has totally gone.

"Victim mentality"
How many times have they come out and complained Pep highlighted how many times that he has complained about refs in ten years despite having lots of justifiable reasons to like he said ZERO he listed major mistakes that have cost City in recent times Why because he is sick and tired of it He clearly doesnt want to do it but there's a breaking point for everyone Same with the players they must be sick to death of it and hence why we have heard complaint from Bernie and Rodri

"Whining about it isn't going to change anything"
Its about time in my view the fact that they have tried to scupper us over the last ten years but failed doesnt make it right

Its not just the awful decisions its the different standards for the opponents

"All we hear out of the club is complaining now."
3 maybe 4 instances of complaints in one case just answering questions

 

[Gazza]

Just watched the goal again, how can they legitimately credit that goal to Solanke

Because if they don't they're admitting it was a foul.

 

[Blue Since 76]

Ah right so we we won both games in the end? Thought you'd come back with one where we've drawn or lost!

We were 5-1 up against Fulham and ended up hanging on, 2-0 against Leeds and need an injury time winner to get the 3 points, but if you're happy with that, don't see any issues and are confident that the return of Dias will fix all our problems, clap away.