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Said that in the match day.

They showed the goal but not the contentious build up and possible offside.

I mean, it definitely should have been chalked off for the foul on Guehi but not even sending him to the monitor for something that subjective is very bizarre. I thought a goal was coming for them anyway as we were wank, but would be grand if the officials didn't decide to make it up as they go along
 
Still only 6 points in it and they are supposedly to be better than us. Not convinced they are good enough on all fronts. The league isn't that strong to be honest and everyone is capable of beating each other on any occasion. They will still have to priortise.

That may be so Ray, but we're the ones who HAVE to make something happen, and, unless we make some serious headway on Arsenal in the next few months, we aren't gonna be winning this title, and that's the bottom line with games now counting down fast ...... we can't even trust our own performances anymore, and Arsenal know it.
 
I'm convinced he's gone this summer and the players know it. Performances are like those we got 10 years ago with a team treating the manager like a supply teacher.
I can see that. Might explain why the team are struggling for leadership when they’re not getting from the coach.
 
Once we went 0-2 up on them, I thought we'd go on and get another 3 to be honest. They were absolutely dreadful and we were in complete control. They couldn't get the ball, didn't try much and were already beaten.

I cannot understand what Pep says at HT sometimes - Spurs couldn't have come out and played worse and they had nothing to lose. We went out thinking we'd won that game and put as little effort in as we could. In the end, Spurs could've had 4 goals and it took something special from Donnarumma. If we'd had Ederson in net today, we'd have been slapped.

In past seasons, I could understand why we were sometimes trying to save energy - we had a decent crack at winning the lot. This team will be very lucky to win any trophies this season. We cannot win the PL, FA, CC and CL this season. We have to pick and choose because the squad is not good enough, we have too many old players and players who cannot play the system he wants to play.

Quite simply, playing the high line and having a midfield which doesn't attack or defend well kills this team. If Dias, Gvardiol, Stones, Ake etc struggle with it then so will any other defender let alone Khusanov, Alleyne etc. It's complete suicide.

We also are playing a system which makes one of the greatest strikers who's ever lived into a bit part. Either he scores 2 goals in a game or he does fuck all and we might as well not play him. Pep HAS to figure this out. He might complain about recruitment but Guehi, Cherki and Semenyo are plenty good enough in this league.

I'm getting a bit fed up with Pep now. This has been going on for 18 months and we're no closer really to figuring out out best XI or the system to play which works with our players. If he can't do that, the board have to ask him some heavy questions. I don't think his heart is in it anymore to be honest. He has been one of the most incredible, revolutionary managers English football has seen but his recent teams are boring to watch and easily beaten.

I don't really know what we do next, I suspect we will win some and lose some and finish top 4. It's just really frustrating to watch football like today - we purposely played in a way that made us far worse and that's on Pep.
Great points. Pep has earned the right to decide his own destiny but we have been poor for at least 18 months now and he has to take some accountability for that

It might be time for a change for all parties at the end of the season sadly
 
That’s the worst 11 Spurs have ever put out in the Premier League era. Any top 10 side would have put 5/6 past them.

They were there for a taking and we decided to pass the ball sideways.

It’s unacceptable
And that’s totally on our manager/coach, our tepid sideways passing is a disgrace to watch & that’s pep’s fault, 2-2 tonight & we made about 89 sideways passes in injury time, a fuckin unfunny joke of a 2nd half
 
He's being grappled by two defender.
He's positioned where the ball is heading.
He's held and he can't jump.
Why should he still attempt to get to the ball whilst being disadvantaged?
He, as we are told, "had every right" to go down in order to force the ref to react; so fucking what if he "threw himself to the ground". He's not the first and he won't be the last to exaggerate the foul, but it's still a foul.
He didn't initiate the contact, they held him.

It's not a kick or a slap or any other sort of foul that happens in an instant. It's being held. By two blokes, before, during and after the ball is in play. Did the ref blow to stop the corner and address the contact before the ball was in play? No he fucking didn't.

It's a foul and it's a penalty, pal.

Learn the fucking basics ;)

(anyway, some very talented people are about to make pottery on TV and I need to calm down, so I'm going to watch that and try to forget about this shit-show of a match, have fun gas-lighting people with you "knowledge" whilst I'm away)
Simon23 reminds me of a Rag who comes in when everybody is irate about decisions and tells them that they are wrong, then laughs away at the replies he gets.

Alternatively, a Blue who likes entertaining themselves at others sufferings.

Either way, not really somebody I’d want to interact with.
 
Haaland throws himself to the ground...the holding was before...test contact does not make a 6foot 5 human fall over....he was playing for it and deservedly got nothing
He'd be better off starting his position on the edge of the 18 yard box

All he does is stand in the 6 yard box which results in a shit load of wrestling which normally leads to a foul against us, or just a messy 6 yard box

Tbh I cant even remember the last time he scored direct from a corner or free kick anyway
 
Yep, it looked offside to me too, but we were never gonna get any decisions today ....
oh please stfu about the refs. everyone on here. they are not biased theres no agenda and they would have checked the offside. we used to get tons and tons of bollocks penalties at home when sterling would run into the box get touched and fall over.
 
Neville banging on about how bad the defence is - I don’t have a problem with the defence as individuals, it’s those up front that are doing fuck all.

Haaland was rubbish

Ait-Nouri is shite, we always get worse when Rijnders comes on and we didn’t have a shot in the second half.

Just so slow and weak

Number 1 simple rule in football is ? You defend from the front and as a whole team

Thats why Neville is sat watching for Sky Sports Clueless fucker knows fuck all about football
 
We have to be honest here.

Pep’s style isn’t working anymore. We are very predictable and we can only thrive when the tempo is slow and we are in control.

For me, he’s run his course and we need a change. He isn’t going to change. So the club has to.
That’s it mate.

No one wanted this period to come to an end. Well apart from rags and dips.

We all love and appreciate everything pep has done for us. It will never be matched. The club need to make a decision now before the summer. A decision that is for the best interest of the club not any one individual. Get 115 gone and we start again.

Pretending that it will somehow get better is only making the situation worse.

I am pissed at the players. They should still be giving more to the manager. Pep message is falling on deaf ears.
 
ATM in my head I'd prefer him to stay and see how we adapt with a fully fit and firing squad but for the first time I wouldn't put up too much of an argument if he was to call it a day. Certainly not sacked like some suggest, but at the end of the season so he walks with some dignity and hopefully a trophy or two.
I don't think anyone wants him sacked and if they do, they need to give their head a wobble. You don't sack a legend and Pep IS a legend. If he goes, it should be at the end of the season when he can be given a send off he fully deserves.

If I'm honest, this squad will not come back fully fit or firing. It looks old and unfit. After 60 minutes the 'old' Pep teams would put their foot on the opponents throats, but this one looked goosed. We are so unfit it's unreal and I don't know how, or why, that is the case. I've never seem any other team look more unfit than us.
 
Nah, I'll stay where I am and call your constant shit out thank you.
It's my opinion which you and others will not agree with, fine by me. But you pull virtually every post of my mine up, others are equally as critical but you seem to avoid them
 

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