Generalisng a bit. Can't really see 30,000 fans singing anti City chants every match like they do about Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham.gooney said:They hate everyone....just hateful bunchShadrachDingle said:Bitter fans everywhere. There have been hundreds of anti Spurs threads on here too.
If you asked a Spurs fan who would they rather finish in the top 4 out of Arsenal, Chelsea and City, who do you really think they would pick? They would choose City obviously. They hate their London neighbours
banbury_blue said:You are all deluded...
Man Utd invented the model that Chelsea and now City are using. Spend massively at the beginning, then ease off, bring players through from within or just cherry pick other teams best players (Ferdinand/Rooney) as need arises. The huge spending at the start means that each season you probably only need 1-2 players brought in. The last few years Chelsea have eased off, they are just further into the model than City - too early to judge City yet.
When Ferguson came to United where was this 'inbuilt' success that allowed him to go out and spend what look like small figures now but were huge at the time, on the likes of Pallister/Bruce/Wallace/Webb/Keane/Ince/ I could go on and on. Please don't tell me attendances paid for this, with wages etc - they'd have been nowhere near. That's why United had to go public - way before the kids turned up.
Too many United fans think Fergie started with Beckham/Scholes/Giggs etc - he didn't. A huge outlay at the beginning gave him a structure to bring these kids into. Admittedly it was an amazing crop of players coming through, but that well has long since dried up - Evans? O'Shea? Fletcher - don't think they're on a par. Nope, you need money - even Liverpool did it, cheery picking the likes of Barnes/Beardsley/Aldridge etc every summer.
And Spurs - you gotta be kidding me. Have you seen how much your first team squad cost? Only a couple of big buyhs short of City's. And what success has this been based on? Get real the lot of you.
This was just posted, not sure if it was by someone off here, but its a very sensible reasonable post
Firstly, Uniteds riches have not been the result of success, in fact completely the opposition. The richness United gained came from being the instigators of the premier league, manipulating their powerful position as one of the already richest clubs in the country ( when we weren't winning anything ) to force a larger stake in the pot.
Who was the first team to install a "megastore" inside their ground, a huge sparkling corporate facility whcih they then whored out to whoever would pay the most money ?
Who is it that holds more sponsors and "commercial partnerships" than any other club in the world, and almost every month you hear "blah blah.. is our new commercial partner for toilet rolls / sausage rolls / piggy banks"
The fact is they have whored off Uniteds name to anyone who is willing to pay for it. Before long there will be commercial partners for just about any household product or item you could care to buy
What does that have to do with football ? More to the point, that money they get is what is funding the players. Not the clubs winnings, not the ticket money, not the Glazers. THe fact we've sold our name to anyone who wants to use it.
You keep kidding yourself that United got where they are today because of their success. Your disillusionment has no limits.
The fact is we were ones who sold our arses to businessmen before anyone else. We are the ones who everyone else is trying to follow in terms of how to run your football team as a commercial venture. We are the club that every rich owner who invests in a football club wants their club to be like. They want their clubs ran just the way we run ours.
Thats why the arabs, Roman, Qataris' blah blah are all taking on clubs, because they have seen what can be done if you take a football club, sell its soul to the corporates and let businessmen run a club so they can make millions from it.
There is no difference between the Glazers, the Qataris, the arabs at City, Roman.. They are all one and the same, in it for profit and greed. Nothing more nothing less. For you to sit there placing us in a moral position above anyone else is just laughable, because ultimately its the greed and moneymaking thats gone on at United that attracted businessmen into football in the firstt place.
We are the biggest culprits for taking a club and selling its soul down the river all so someone can get rich....
Burtonblue said:Gaudino said:That doesn't count, obviously.... ; )
Spuds fans are getting like the uber victims, the Scousers nowadays...they were expecting that they would be the next club to crash the top four, (and this season they have, but they know to well that it's very temporary and City are the real threat)
And they, like all other jealous supporters of all other clubs are hypocrites, cos if the same investment was to be put into their club they would take it like a shot...fcuk the lot of them.
Jealous..nuff said!