Spurs (h) pre-match thread

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blue ranger said:
I actually think Stones has been dire this season after the first 4 or 5 weeks of the season. Admittedly he is playing with Otamendi, Kolarov etc but this is a supposed £50m player. Surely he can do better. I'd probably go with a back 3 so we can get an extra man in midfield and also up with Aguero (3-5-2):

Caballero
Kompany
Otamendi
Stones
Sterling
Fernando
KDB
Delph
Sane
Jesus
Aguero
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New centre back. Kompany injured. New Keeper. Not a surprise we have struggled
 
Marvin said:
Bravo is a quality keeper and will prove it. Kolarov is quality too although I concede he can be exposed by a quick player.

It's only a matter of time before this City squad clicks
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Be sure to let me know when that happens. Stones will I hope prove to be quality. Which is why I would play him in front of our reserve left back in the centre of our defence.
 
We all know what's going to happen with Vinny if he starts. Someone's going to make a bad pass he's going to overstretch for it and pull a bloody muscle.
 
Marvin said:
Bravo is a quality keeper and will prove it.
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I agree with you which is something I never thought I would say ;-)

He's going through a tough time at the moment but we should judge a quality of a player by his career, not a few bad games. Having said that, not sure which would help him the most, taking him out of the firing line for a while (which may damage his confidence) or letting him play through it. I'd be tempted to stick with him.
 
Stones and Clichy scare me way more than Kolarov right now - who is probably our second best regularly available center back strange as it is. I'd go sagna over Zaba too. Bravo is a very good keeper in a horrible patch.

Gonna need midfielders keeping tabs on Eriksen and Alli, also Rose and Walker. Sane, Sterling and Fernando seem so essential it becomes one from Kev and Silva and one from Yaya, Garcia or Delph.

Sneaking suspicion Jesus might start just to mess with their plans.
 
Marvin said:
Bravo is a quality keeper and will prove it. Kolarov is quality too although I concede he can be exposed by a quick player.

It's only a matter of time before this City squad clicks
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Oh come on Marvin get your act together. Kolarov is an awful defender. Would not get into any of the top teams. As for Bravo , have you seen his stats on shot stopping? This side is never going to click with poor quality players in suck important positions.
 
Marvin said:
Bravo is a quality keeper and will prove it. Kolarov is quality too although I concede he can be exposed by a quick player.

It's only a matter of time before this City squad clicks
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Possibly WUM going on here but if not then I would love half of whatever you're on.....

Hes an absolute liability, fantastic at that little faint he does before he passes the ball but apart from that hes garbage, he cant make a save that's not bread and butter. Of the keepers ive seen at City inc, Hart, Willy, Given, James, Weaver, Seaman ect Bravo is bar far the worst.
 
-----------------------Bravo-------------------
-----Otamendi---Kompany---Stones-------
-------------------Fernando--------------------
Sterling---KDB-----------Silva--------Sane
-----------Aguero-------Jesus--------------

Go at it from the off, Jesus off for Kelechi after 60 minutes.

Imagine that side with Fernandinho instead of Fernando once he's eligible. Mouth watering.
 
IMO Bravo is not a patch on Joe and is a liability

He may be going through a tough patch but he really does not look good enough

But we should support the lad no matter what our personal views are because he is our goalie and needs our support
 
inchy14 said:
-----------------------Bravo-------------------
-----Otamendi---Kompany---Stones-------
-------------------Fernando--------------------
Sterling---KDB-----------Silva--------Sane
-----------Aguero-------Jesus--------------

Go at it from the off, Jesus off for Kelechi after 60 minutes.

Imagine that side with Fernandinho instead of Fernando once he's eligible. Mouth watering.
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3 at the back would be suicidal. that team has almost no defensive cover against spurs - one of the best attacking teams.
 
waspish said:
Nahh it will push there fullbacks back if we keep at it pressuring them but we would need to take our chances
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Agreed. 352 would be my choice as well. It's not like our full backs are remotely decent this season anyway.
 
waspish said:
Nahh it will push there fullbacks back if we keep at it pressuring them but we would need to take our chances
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Do you really think Sane and Sterling are going to push Rose and Walker back? It's much more likely Rose and Walker will dominate them both and you'll be pinned back, with Sterling and Sane acting as defenders which would be a recipe for disaster. Rose and Walker are tailor made for the wing back role. Sane and Sterling are not wing backs. That formation will not end well.
 
waspish said:
Nahh it will push there fullbacks back if we keep at it pressuring them but we would need to take our chances
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maybe, but everytime we've tried 3 at the back, its not been great. if we do we need sterling and sane to be getting back and defending, which they dont usually do. rose and walker are the best attacking full backs in the league so its a risk imo.
 
waspish said:
Nahh it will push there fullbacks back if we keep at it pressuring them but we would need to take our chances
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Primativ said:
Do you really think Sane and Sterling are going to push Rose and Walker back? It's much more likely Rose and Walker will dominate them both and you'll be pinned back, with Sterling and Sane acting as defenders which would be a recipe for disaster. Rose and Walker are tailor made for the wing back role. Sane and Sterling are not wing backs. That formation will not end well.
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Exactly what Pep tried successfully against Chelsea, despite people saying it wouldn't work. It did, we pushed Moses and Alonso right back into their own half and they did nothing until Sané came off.

Like vs. Chelsea, we are the home team, we will dominate possession, and Walker and Rose will have to drop deep because of the sheer pace of Sané and Sterling.

That's the only way to defend against players faster than you, so it's literally their only option, otherwise any ball in behind them leads to a 3v3 at the back.

As for the wingers defending - people said the same before Chelsea and yet Sané was brilliant when he had to defend and Raheem has always been one of the hardest working players we have in defence - usually makes it back before the fullbacks when we get countered.

Only change I'd make is I'd prefer 3241 like we saw earlier in the season.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
maybe, but everytime we've tried 3 at the back, its not been great. if we do we need sterling and sane to be getting back and defending, which they dont usually do. rose and walker are the best attacking full backs in the league so its a risk imo.
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That's just blatantly not true. It worked vs. Chelsea, and it was brilliant vs. Everton - a performance Koeman said was the best he'd ever faced as a manager.
 
----------------Bravo
Sagna--Kompany--Oramendi--Kolarov
---------KDB----Silva
Sane-Sterling--Aguero--jesus

With fullbacks pushed up. I know it's very attacking but I'd still do it. As long as we score more than the opposition it doesn't matter and that front 6 is as good as any team in world football

If we can't defend, lets at least play to our strengths rather than see our attacking compromised by trying to shore the defence up
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domalino said:
Exactly what Pep tried successfully against Chelsea, despite people saying it wouldn't work. It did, we pushed Moses and Alonso right back into their own half and they did nothing until Sané came off.

Like vs. Chelsea, we are the home team, we will dominate possession, and Walker and Rose will have to drop deep because of the sheer pace of Sané and Sterling.

That's the only way to defend against players faster than you, so it's literally their only option, otherwise any ball in behind them leads to a 3v3 at the back.

As for the wingers defending - people said the same before Chelsea and yet Sané was brilliant when he had to defend and Raheem has always been one of the hardest working players we have in defence - usually makes it back before the fullbacks when we get countered.

Only change I'd make is I'd prefer 3241 like we saw earlier in the season.
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Hold on, are you saying Sterling and Sane are faster than Rose and Walker? I highly doubt it. They may be equal but I find it very hard to believe that Sane and Sterling are that much faster than Walker or Rose which would necessitate both have to drop deep because they are scared of being caught out. You make it sound like Walker and Rose have the pace of Gary Neville. I've never seen Walker or Rose beaten for pace by any attackers.

By the way, Moses and Alonso aren't fit to lace the boots of Walker and Rose a wing backs, as was evident when Spurs beat Chelsea 2 nil.
 
Primativ said:
Hold on, are you saying Sterling and Sane are faster than Rose and Walker? I highly doubt it. They may be equal but I find it very hard to believe that Sane and Sterling are that much faster than Walker or Rose which would necessitate both have to drop deep because they are scared of being caught out. You make it sound like Walker and Rose have the pace of Gary Neville. I've never seen Walker or Rose beaten for pace by any attackers.

By the way, Moses and Alonso aren't fit to lace the boots of Walker and Rose a wing backs, as was evident when Spurs beat Chelsea 2 nil.
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What? Yes, they are both quite clearly faster than Rose and Walker respectively.

And you clearly didn't watch the Spurs Chelsea game then, because the 2 pairs of wingbacks were equal, which is why they targeted Azpilicueta's height. Just because Spurs won the game doesn't mean that every Spurs player was better than their counterpart.

Edit -Oh hang on, I see. You're a Spurs fan, that makes sense.

In that case, sure pal, no one is faster than Rose and Walker, no one. They are the best fullbacks in the world.
 
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