Squeeze

mackenzie said:
No, it isn't TMQ.

I am fully awake when it comes to those times and now. It is not an age thing, more a sadness that there is very little rebellion in the air. The young used to do that as a matter of course, and it led to much creativity.

Now we just have stadium fillers and a seemingly lethargic attitude to the next great thing by whoever. There is little relevance and no soul.

Although I fully expect to castigated for this by grumpy 20 odd year olds I will say one more thing.....you should have been there.

Granted rebellion is dying but thats partly to do with the non stop generic 'you must conform' bullshit that the govt forces upon kids from birth these days.

Me, i've never given a fuck. I do what I want when I want and whilst it pisses a lot of people off that's their problem.

Pete Doherty, perhaps not the best example, is to me fantastic if only because he pisses off the squares of this world with his antics. He's an ace songwriter and passionate as fuck about what he does.

Don't fall into the trap Mac of thinking the younger generation are all dead, theres some of us still alive and kicking :)
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
mackenzie said:
No, it isn't TMQ.

I am fully awake when it comes to those times and now. It is not an age thing, more a sadness that there is very little rebellion in the air. The young used to do that as a matter of course, and it led to much creativity.

Now we just have stadium fillers and a seemingly lethargic attitude to the next great thing by whoever. There is little relevance and no soul.

Although I fully expect to castigated for this by grumpy 20 odd year olds I will say one more thing.....you should have been there.

Granted rebellion is dying but thats partly to do with the non stop generic 'you must conform' bullshit that the govt forces upon kids from birth these days.

Me, i've never given a fuck. I do what I want when I want and whilst it pisses a lot of people off that's their problem.

Pete Doherty, perhaps not the best example, is to me fantastic if only because he pisses off the squares of this world with his antics. He's an ace songwriter and passionate as fuck about what he does.

Don't fall into the trap Mac of thinking the younger generation are all dead, theres some of us still alive and kicking :)

Oh, I know. ;-)

But, apart from Pete Doherty, aren't many of your heros those from yesteryear?
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
mackenzie said:
No, it isn't TMQ.

I am fully awake when it comes to those times and now. It is not an age thing, more a sadness that there is very little rebellion in the air. The young used to do that as a matter of course, and it led to much creativity.

Now we just have stadium fillers and a seemingly lethargic attitude to the next great thing by whoever. There is little relevance and no soul.

Although I fully expect to castigated for this by grumpy 20 odd year olds I will say one more thing.....you should have been there.

Granted rebellion is dying but thats partly to do with the non stop generic 'you must conform' bullshit that the govt forces upon kids from birth these days.

Me, i've never given a fuck. I do what I want when I want and whilst it pisses a lot of people off that's their problem.

Pete Doherty, perhaps not the best example, is to me fantastic if only because he pisses off the squares of this world with his antics. He's an ace songwriter and passionate as fuck about what he does.

Don't fall into the trap Mac of thinking the younger generation are all dead, theres some of us still alive and kicking :)

Well if your're looking for underground, rebellious scenes there is all sorts of shit going on in the states. Especially in LA these days. NYC has died down a bit but there is always something interesting coming from the underground there. Same for San Fran, Portland, Baltimore these days, all good scenes. That will be a constant. There will always be an underground, a counter culture, an alternative to the mainstream and its always evolving...thank god for that.
 
mackenzie said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
mackenzie said:
No, it isn't TMQ.

I am fully awake when it comes to those times and now. It is not an age thing, more a sadness that there is very little rebellion in the air. The young used to do that as a matter of course, and it led to much creativity.

Now we just have stadium fillers and a seemingly lethargic attitude to the next great thing by whoever. There is little relevance and no soul.

Although I fully expect to castigated for this by grumpy 20 odd year olds I will say one more thing.....you should have been there.

Granted rebellion is dying but thats partly to do with the non stop generic 'you must conform' bullshit that the govt forces upon kids from birth these days.

Me, i've never given a fuck. I do what I want when I want and whilst it pisses a lot of people off that's their problem.

Pete Doherty, perhaps not the best example, is to me fantastic if only because he pisses off the squares of this world with his antics. He's an ace songwriter and passionate as fuck about what he does.

Don't fall into the trap Mac of thinking the younger generation are all dead, theres some of us still alive and kicking :)

Oh, I know. ;-)

But, apart from Pete Doherty, aren't many of your heros those from yesteryear?

Yes most are from yesteryear but that's only because I go back and take the best of the best from each decade genre etc or at least the bands I feel to be the best.

No doubt that come 2011 I've find that I liked as many bands from this decade as I do bands from the 50/60/70 etc.

Also remember Mac, it isnt the kids or the bands who put the music out generally speaking it's older people who are into making money and maintaining the status quo. Rebellion and questioning authority isnt allowed to be cool anymore so bands of this ilk are kept at bay whilst utter pointless drivel is forced down our throat on a daily basis (Coldplay, Keane etc).
 
The music staus quo is there to be toppled TMQ. Many have done it before.

Just seems to me that they either do not have the wherewithal or the nous. Or the guts.

Going to bed now though. Good debate, and thanks.
 
Firstly Squeeze were ace.

Secondly, i'd have to say '77 - '83 was a huge part of my growing up too musically. I got into everything from punk to the mod revival, to ska, the start of hip hop, the start of The Smiths etc.... so so much good music, that i still listen to now.... in fact i don't think there's been a band that i've liked over the years that i wouldn't listen to now.... not really.

And thirdly, i'd say that if you're looking for anarchistic, rebellious stuff, Radiohead is not the band for you, but... they are far more than just In Rainbows. If it's punch you're after, then delve into their early back catalogue. I'm not saying you'll love it, but it's quite different.
 
mackenzie said:
No, it isn't TMQ.

I am fully awake when it comes to those times and now. It is not an age thing, more a sadness that there is very little rebellion in the air. The young used to do that as a matter of course, and it led to much creativity.

Now we just have stadium fillers and a seemingly lethargic attitude to the next great thing by whoever. There is little relevance and no soul.

Although I fully expect to castigated for this by grumpy 20 odd year olds I will say one more thing.....you should have been there.

You echo my sentiments exactly Mackenzie. I too thought it was just an age thing, and the fact that I grew up in an amazing age of popular music.
Glam was all around me as an impressionable 13/14 year old, and then BOOM! Punk and New Wave exploded around me as a 16 year old.

But it is more than that, as you say. So much around now feels souless. Almost bland, with each band merging into the next.
I live in hope of witnessing another major musical revolution, or at least a bit of passion from some bands before I get too old.
 
Up the Junction is a great song. I first heard the version by The View, & decided to find the original . I love it.
 
Dave H said:
Firstly Squeeze were ace.

Secondly, i'd have to say '77 - '83 was a huge part of my growing up too musically. I got into everything from punk to the mod revival, to ska, the start of hip hop, the start of The Smiths etc.... so so much good music, that i still listen to now.... in fact i don't think there's been a band that i've liked over the years that i wouldn't listen to now.... not really.

And thirdly, i'd say that if you're looking for anarchistic, rebellious stuff, Radiohead is not the band for you, but... they are far more than just In Rainbows. If it's punch you're after, then delve into their early back catalogue. I'm not saying you'll love it, but it's quite different.

In Rainbows is a brilliant piece of music


Jigsaw Falling into Pieces is one of my top 5 radiohead tracks
 

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