St George's day

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It's not marketable. I for one wouldn't mind having a day off to drink Carling and dress as a crusader outside a pub but a truly unifying national beer is needed. Then and only then, is there a leg to stand on.
We should invade Belgium and take Stella Artois off them. Truly the best beer globally.
 
Party central at that age mate ! Any excuse.
Come to think of it I remember my daughter coming home wearing a Guinness felt hat with my son wearing a horses head about 20 years ago.
I hope they hadn’t been on a trip to Newcastle.
 
It's not marketable. I for one wouldn't mind having a day off to drink Carling and dress as a crusader outside a pub but a truly unifying national beer is needed. Then and only then, is there a leg to stand on.
Surely the national beer is Stella. Your day would only be complete finishing with the national dish of Chicken Tikka Masala at the local curry house. For England and St George.
 
I love the clips from that film, particularly the Upon St Crispin's Day one. Very rousing.

Brian Blessed, you say. He was just too shy, and hid his light under a bushes, as the old phrase goes. He needed to sell himself more.
Always liked him.
He was "Fancy" Smith in Z-Cars.
That scene in Henry V where he goes to the French king's court to warn them of what's coming.
And he climbed Everest.

(pity he supports u****d.)
 
'Irish pubs' were a bit of a thing in the 90s and I think that pushed it. Basically, a shit English pub rebranding by ripping out the carpets, getting some wanky green sign writing done with a shamrock and some tokenistick 'irish' name. Stick a bit of pogues/Dubliners on, sell badly kept Guinness on an electric pump and profess that there is 'good craic'
Bobs yer uncle - a shit pub has now become trendy and obviously st Paddy's would be like a second go at Xmas in terms of profits at an otherwise dead time of year.
You’ve summed it up perfectly and it went on in many Towns -mine included
 
The coverage of today compared to St. Patrick’s Day is stark. It’s as though people are afraid to acknowledge St. George’s Day.

You have people who have absolutely nothing to do with Ireland wearing green felt hats and stupid sunglasses with the Irish colours on, all out necking Guinness, which they undoubtedly can’t stand the taste of. Then today, nothing.
There’s never been much of a culture of celebrating St George’s Day amongst the English… and that’s on purpose.

The true patron saint of England is St Edmund. The Norman’s banned St Edmund’s Day and forced St George on the English (St Edmund’s emblem/flag is the white dragon and St George is a dragon slayer). The English shunned St George’s Day, only the Normans and their knights celebrated it.

Compared to the other Saints Days across the British Isles, St George is celebrated least.

St Edmund’s Day is 20th November. I have always said that St Edmund should be resurrected as our patron saint and we should celebrate St Edmund’s Day.
 
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I grew up in Wales and St David's day was always a big thing. It surprised me, when I moved to England, that its hardly even recognised. I reckon half the population don't even know it's today
 
I've never known anyone in England to give a fuck about St George's Day. Same with the flag. They were always for football and that was it. It's just not really part of the English mindset and culture to be patriotic like that. We've always been a bit above it.
I do remember going to Blackburn away on St George’s Day about twenty years ago and some City fans were dressed up as knights. That’s about the extent of the biggest I’ve seen it celebrated.
 
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Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

Branagh's pretty good. But nobody does it like Larry: “… Saint Geooooooorge!”

It so happens that I saw that play performed at none other than Manchester's Palace Theatre, many, many moons ago. Performed by the RSC, no less. And with the marvellous Alan Howard as Henry.
I took my poor girlfriend, who was game for anything that I was into (beginning with standing on the Kippax). She was a sciency type. At the end she turned to me and said, “Sorry, but I understood almost nothing of that”.
 
Branagh's pretty good. But nobody does it like Larry: “… Saint Geooooooorge!”

It so happens that I saw that play performed at none other than Manchester's Palace Theatre, many, many moons ago. Performed by the RSC, no less. And with the marvellous Alan Howard as Henry.
I took my poor girlfriend, who was game for anything that I was into (beginning with standing on the Kippax). She was a sciency type. At the end she turned to me and said, “Sorry, but I understood almost nothing of that”.
Grayson?
 
The st George flag was nicked off genoa to protect English merchant ships in the med
 
That’s not actually historically accurate.

Genuine question, when it’s national patron St’s Day of Wales, Scotland, Ireland… do people run around the internet trying to erase and talk down the identity of those countries?
I'm patriotic as fuck - but fairly sure the Genoa thing is correct
 
I'm patriotic as fuck - but fairly sure the Genoa thing is correct
It’s a popular myth but England already used it and there’s no contemporary evidence that’s why the kingdom adopted it.

And it was already used en masse across Europe, English troops had continued to wear it following the Crusades and wore it more and more as years went by.

It was a gradual thing that became more and more prominent over time basically.
 
Branagh's pretty good. But nobody does it like Larry: “… Saint Geooooooorge!”

It so happens that I saw that play performed at none other than Manchester's Palace Theatre, many, many moons ago. Performed by the RSC, no less. And with the marvellous Alan Howard as Henry.
I took my poor girlfriend, who was game for anything that I was into (beginning with standing on the Kippax). She was a sciency type. At the end she turned to me and said, “Sorry, but I understood almost nothing of that”.
Ah but what of the scene at the end where he woos the French princess and tells her "you have witchcraft in your lips, Kate." What a seductive line! Didn't THAT do anything to charm the lass?
 
Ah but what of the scene at the end where he woos the French princess and tells her "you have witchcraft in your lips, Kate." What a seductive line! Didn't THAT do anything to charm the lass?

Oh I'm exaggerating a bit, of course. She liked the parts she understood. But it's very discombobulating to think you're English, that you speak English, that you've spoken it all your life, then to go along to see the national bard for the first time and not understand whole swathes of it.
Almost as discombobulating as when I met a Geordie lad on a train about the same time, very friendly, and I could understand about 15% of what he was saying. Had to pretend to understand him for most of the conversation, otherwise I think he would have been insulted. He thought he was speaking English…
 

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