Stamp Duty

Just out of interest, can the money for stamp duty be borrowed as part of the mortgage, or do you always have to pay it up front?

Yes. Depends on individual circumstances, you could just take a higher loan to value in the mortgage or use bridging finance.

The SDLT gets paid out of client funds by the solicitor/licensed conveyancer as part of the buying process.
 
Next time I pass a mansion I'm gonna put a tenner through the letter box. Poor sods.

If I can get through the gate
Over the moat
By pass the pedigree guard dogs and avoid the gaze of the pool boy.

First they came for the million pound home owne.........

The main thing to remember about that though is those million pound plus owners are unlikely to have paid that sum to buy - they maybe bought early 90's and now find its worth £1m+ in retirement but of course they need the IHT support of those renters at work struggling to pay rent - pity the homeowners indeed
 
This Tory government is currently on track to be the biggest tax-increasing parliament since comparable records began.
That's probably because governmental spending has increased massively at a time when the economy basically collapsed over the last few years.

It's difficult to state just how expensive and destructive COVID was. Whether it should be policy to claw that back or not is for the government of the day. Either way the circumstances of the last 23 years are not good and aren't going to improve anytime soon.

I can't see how Labour in power today would be able to act any differently. Blair inherited a government in the 90's at 30% GDP-debt, it's now 103%. We currently spend a figure that is around 1/3 of the NHS budget just on debt interest alone and it's increasing every single day.
 
Next time I pass a mansion I'm gonna put a tenner through the letter box. Poor sods.

If I can get through the gate
Over the moat
By pass the pedigree guard dogs and avoid the gaze of the pool boy.

First they came for the million pound home owne.........

Good news is I made "made" about £150k in 26 years so a tenner is too much - a £2 coin will cover it - and tell you what rather than driving here and passing by in a cul-de-sac just pop it in a charity box or donate to a food bank or an animal charity and that way we can both be happy mate lol
 
That's probably because governmental spending has increased massively at a time when the economy basically collapsed over the last few years.

It's difficult to understate just how expensive and destructive COVID was. Whether it should be policy to claw that back or not is for the government of the day, either way the circumstances of the last 23 years are not good.

I can't see how Labour in power today would be able to act any differently. Blair inherited a government in the 90's at 30% GDP-debt, it's now 103%. We currently spend a figure that is around 1/3 of the NHS budget on debt interest and it's increasing.

I'd almost fall for that were it not the billions wasted in VIP lanes and fraud Sunak won't recover......Test, Track and Trace anyone?
 
I'd almost fall for that were it not the billions wasted in VIP lanes and fraud Sunak won't recover......Test, Track and Trace anyone?
I agree but some of that comes from panic which is understandable. As we're seeing with the COVID inquiry they quite frankly weren't that clever and a lot of the response was total incompetence.

Either way what was the alternative and why wasn't it proposed at the time? I can only recall the opposition waving everything through so in effect there was no opposition.

This includes granting the government greater powers with respect to handling COVID, something that often removed the need to even consult parliament.
 
I agree but some of that comes from panic which is understandable. As we're seeing with the COVID inquiry they quite frankly weren't that clever and a lot of the response was total incompetence.

Either way what was the alternative and why wasn't it proposed at the time? I can only recall the opposition waving everything through so in effect there was no opposition.

This includes granting the government greater powers with respect to handling COVID, something that often removed the need to even consult parliament.

A panic which the rest of the world appears to have escaped? Any other Govt in the world ignore their regular PPE set up a VIP lane and get their country shafted? Did any other spend £37bn on a track and trace system run by the wife of a mate and that did fuck all and was quietly dropped?

Of course there was panic. Difference is here the first thought was not "how do we sort this quickly and cost effectively" but was " how do we - our mates - our donors and our contacts moneytise this? "
 
That's probably because governmental spending has increased massively at a time when the economy basically collapsed over the last few years.

It's difficult to state just how expensive and destructive COVID was. Whether it should be policy to claw that back or not is for the government of the day. Either way the circumstances of the last 23 years are not good and aren't going to improve anytime soon.

I can't see how Labour in power today would be able to act any differently. Blair inherited a government in the 90's at 30% GDP-debt, it's now 103%. We currently spend a figure that is around 1/3 of the NHS budget just on debt interest alone and it's increasing every single day.
Until the crash in 2008 Labour had reduced the debt ratio. Classic allthesamery.
 
What a nasty, pernicious and stupidly counter-productive tax that is.

It's been 21 years since I moved house and I am not planning on moving any time soon, so I have no horse in this race. But recently I had cause to take a look at it. The rates people with larger properties are being charged should they wish to move, are just obscene.

Did you realise that the stamp duty rate on property value above £925k is 10%??? And 12% on properties over £1.5m. 10% or 12% of their ALREADY TAXED income?

I don't own a house worth anything like these amounts and could not move into one either, so I could say it's no skin off my nose. But these are STUPID amounts of money IMO. Someone wanting to buy an e.g. £1.25m house has to cough up £66,250 in stamp duty alone??? This is bonkers. A high earner perhaps had to earn nearly double that, pre-tax, so maybe £120,000 of your gross earnings, taken off you, just to move house? Insane.

You might argue that people buying that sort of property have money to burn, but that is far from the case. Putting aside the fact that hardly anyone has "spare" money to burn, many people are simply moving from one house to a slightly different one. Maybe a bit bigger, maybe a bit smaller, perhaps in a different area. Yet they are effectively FINED for doing so.

What a stupid policy that is. I've not moved house many times, but every time I have, it's meant endless trips to B&Q buying god knows what; new carpets; curtains; plants and gardening gear; paint; maybe some furniture. Perhaps you get the kitchen or bathroom re-done and god knows what else. Tens of thousands spent, generating income for local suppliers, who also pay their taxes. In short, moving house is a GOOD THING for the economy. And of course a flexible and MOBILE labour market is good for the economy generally. But instead we fine people for the temerity of actually wanting to move house?

I wonder how many elderly people are sitting on larger properties and would be quite happy to downsize, but don't have a spare £30k (or whatever) in cash that they want to bung the taxman? How many people are put off taking a better job and moving house because of the offensive stamp duty charges?

If I was in charge and making changes, stamp duty would be perhaps the very first tax I'd be taking a look at. I think it's a dreadful tax.

EDIT: It's also a tax I find it hard to think of any moral justification for. If someone owns a house worth (say) £650,000 and they want to move to another house also worth £650,000, why on earth should the taxman be receiving any more at all from such a transaction? What possible justification for such robbery is there?
“Did you realise that the stamp duty rate on property value above £925k is 10%??? And 12% on properties over £1.5m. 10% or 12% of their ALREADY TAXED income?”
Nope, didn’t realise that. I’ll shed a tear for the affected.
 

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