Stand leaders

[greasedupdeafguy]

Do you know what....some people are never happy.

Oh the irony. You seem to be the unhappiest of the lot!

I just want to know, like others, who are the fans on 'City Voice'?
Do they go to games or are they just JCL' s from Malaysia who've registered on the Facebook page?
What control does the club have over who's on there and how do we know there aren't rags taking the piss?
How many people actually support this suggestion?
What other suggestions have been made that the club have decided to ignore?

You see, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the fact they've stopped talking to us face-to-face but now communicate with all these faceless "surveys", where the club ask loaded questions, don't publish the results then make the changes they were always going to make without any accountability and supposedly based on 'fan feedback'.

It's getting further and further away from the club I thought I support.

There are definitely non-match going fans on there. And looking at some of the ideas there are quite a few people just taking the piss.

How about installing audio output built into all seats just like aircraft seating and employing john motson full time to commentate live so us quiet ones who cannot sing to save our lives have the option to plug in earphones with very long leads so we can still jump up and down every 5 minutes, although I don't want to make it sound like prawn sandwich brigadish ......I don't mean wearing headphones because that defeats the whole object of building an atmosphere but a singular earplug would suffice......

Just one of the bizarre ideas brought up on cityvoice, mind you after some of the recent introductions to the 'matchday experience' this season I wouldn't be surprised if the club did act upon this idea.

 

[jrb]

Just a quick point of order on this one. 1894 were given unequivocal backing by the supporters club branches who voted to fund those banners so they have sought opinion permission and support from an organisation with 14000 members. Its not 1894 v the club, it's 1894 with the club. 1894 dont agree with every suggestion the club makes and vice versa but they work together. Inflatables HAVE proved popular. Its been funded by the fans and it's had a hugely positive response on social media. So 1894 will always take a majority of people with them when they do stuff. Not just that here is a way for fans to fund atmosphere related ideas and you have the chance to see that meet fruition. If you have a better idea send it to them and they might look at it

Why do you have to FUND atmosphere related ideas? An atmosphere is created by the PEOPLE so does this mean you are paying people to sing and cheer and make noise? Just an observation, not a criticism. Just curious I guess.

Flags, Banners, streamers all cost money

Can I ask.

Do the club ever contribute?

Like for like, or just a contribution every now and again?

 

[LoveCity]

I just want to know, like others, who are the fans on 'City Voice'?

I've been on the City Voice forum and to be honest, most seem to be local match-goers. There are a few notable exceptions, like one or two suggesting cheerleaders, but most seem to speak with the experience of going to the game. Or had last time I looked at it, anyway.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Do you know what....some people are never happy.

Oh the irony. You seem to be the unhappiest of the lot!

I just want to know, like others, who are the fans on 'City Voice'?
Do they go to games or are they just JCL' s from Malaysia who've registered on the Facebook page?
What control does the club have over who's on there and how do we know there aren't rags taking the piss?
How many people actually support this suggestion?
What other suggestions have been made that the club have decided to ignore?

You see, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the fact they've stopped talking to us face-to-face but now communicate with all these faceless "surveys", where the club ask loaded questions, don't publish the results then make the changes they were always going to make without any accountability and supposedly based on 'fan feedback'.

It's getting further and further away from the club I thought I support.

There are definitely non-match going fans on there. And looking at some of the ideas there are quite a few people just taking the piss.

How about installing audio output built into all seats just like aircraft seating and employing john motson full time to commentate live so us quiet ones who cannot sing to save our lives have the option to plug in earphones with very long leads so we can still jump up and down every 5 minutes, although I don't want to make it sound like prawn sandwich brigadish ......I don't mean wearing headphones because that defeats the whole object of building an atmosphere but a singular earplug would suffice......

Just one of the bizarre ideas brought up on cityvoice, mind you after some of the recent introductions to the 'matchday experience' this season I wouldn't be surprised if the club did act upon this idea.

Exactly. Whoever at the club came up with the idea for 'City Voice' wants shooting. As does the person who told them it was a great idea.

No one should have any input who isn't a regular match goer.

 

[JJCMCFC]

The Poznan was the closest any English club has got to a European atmosphere, and as we found out we got bored of that pretty quickly.

Who says these "Stand Leaders" have to encourage us to bounce around? English atmosphere is about chanting and singing loudly, not necessarily bouncing around, so why couldn't the Stand Leaders job just be to start chants off - not bounce or whatever.

To be honest in recent weeks watching Match of the Day I've become less worried about our atmosphere. Not many clubs are ridiculously better than ours.

 

[ManCitizens.]

Oh the irony. You seem to be the unhappiest of the lot!

I just want to know, like others, who are the fans on 'City Voice'?
Do they go to games or are they just JCL' s from Malaysia who've registered on the Facebook page?
What control does the club have over who's on there and how do we know there aren't rags taking the piss?
How many people actually support this suggestion?
What other suggestions have been made that the club have decided to ignore?

You see, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the fact they've stopped talking to us face-to-face but now communicate with all these faceless "surveys", where the club ask loaded questions, don't publish the results then make the changes they were always going to make without any accountability and supposedly based on 'fan feedback'.

It's getting further and further away from the club I thought I support.

There are definitely non-match going fans on there. And looking at some of the ideas there are quite a few people just taking the piss.

How about installing audio output built into all seats just like aircraft seating and employing john motson full time to commentate live so us quiet ones who cannot sing to save our lives have the option to plug in earphones with very long leads so we can still jump up and down every 5 minutes, although I don't want to make it sound like prawn sandwich brigadish ......I don't mean wearing headphones because that defeats the whole object of building an atmosphere but a singular earplug would suffice......

Just one of the bizarre ideas brought up on cityvoice, mind you after some of the recent introductions to the 'matchday experience' this season I wouldn't be surprised if the club did act upon this idea.

Exactly. Whoever at the club came up with the idea for 'City Voice' wants shooting. As does the person who told them it was a great idea.

No one should have any input who isn't a regular match goer.

I agree, the best way to do that would be through supporter numbers and loyalty points.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Just a quick point of order on this one. 1894 were given unequivocal backing by the supporters club branches who voted to fund those banners so they have sought opinion permission and support from an organisation with 14000 members. Its not 1894 v the club, it's 1894 with the club. 1894 dont agree with every suggestion the club makes and vice versa but they work together. Inflatables HAVE proved popular. Its been funded by the fans and it's had a hugely positive response on social media. So 1894 will always take a majority of people with them when they do stuff. Not just that here is a way for fans to fund atmosphere related ideas and you have the chance to see that meet fruition. If you have a better idea send it to them and they might look at it

Why do you have to FUND atmosphere related ideas? An atmosphere is created by the PEOPLE so does this mean you are paying people to sing and cheer and make noise? Just an observation, not a criticism. Just curious I guess.

Flags, Banners, streamers all cost money

But my question related to atmosphere, flags, banner, streamers do not sing, cheer, shout. They are just hung over the hoardings, waved about or thrown about. So why do we need them or if people want them why don't they pay for them themselves? I have two flags, which I use now and again, but I bought them, I display them and I put them over the 'fencing' in front of me. People who sit across the aisle from me also have their own banners/flags which they have been using for years.

Again I am not criticising just asking and just curious as to why you think they are the things that create an atmosphere. Inanimate objects do not have a voice. The supporters do.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Why do you have to FUND atmosphere related ideas? An atmosphere is created by the PEOPLE so does this mean you are paying people to sing and cheer and make noise? Just an observation, not a criticism. Just curious I guess.

Flags, Banners, streamers all cost money

But my question related to atmosphere, flags, banner, streamers do not sing, cheer, shout. They are just hung over the hoardings, waved about or thrown about. So why do we need them or if people want them why don't they pay for them themselves? I have two flags, which I use now and again, but I bought them, I display them and I put them over the 'fencing' in front of me. People who sit across the aisle from me also have their own banners/flags which they have been using for years.

Again I am not criticising just asking and just curious as to why you think they are the things that create an atmosphere. Inanimate objects do not have a voice. The supporters do.

We know this. People start songs not flags. Flags is only one small part of it. Something visual creating conditions where fans start to treat home games with the passion of an away game. The kippax died in 1994. A generation has grown up with all seater stadiums. People have been split up. You have to spend money on creating the conditions because things aren't the same anymore. It's about fighting apathy and in terms of songs 1894 website will be out shortly and we will get the songs out to the supporters through that<br /><br />-- Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:27 pm --<br /><br />And jrb. Yes the club have helped. They helped get us over the line with the card display v bayern and provided logistical support to make that happen.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Flags, Banners, streamers all cost money

But my question related to atmosphere, flags, banner, streamers do not sing, cheer, shout. They are just hung over the hoardings, waved about or thrown about. So why do we need them or if people want them why don't they pay for them themselves? I have two flags, which I use now and again, but I bought them, I display them and I put them over the 'fencing' in front of me. People who sit across the aisle from me also have their own banners/flags which they have been using for years.

Again I am not criticising just asking and just curious as to why you think they are the things that create an atmosphere. Inanimate objects do not have a voice. The supporters do.

We know this. People start songs not flags. Flags is only one small part of it. Something visual creating conditions where fans start to treat home games with the passion of an away game. The kippax died in 1994. A generation has grown up with all seater stadiums. People have been split up. You have to spend money on creating the conditions because things aren't the same anymore. It's about fighting apathy and in terms of songs 1894 website will be out shortly and we will get the songs out to the supporters through that

Thought this looked impressive
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Ap4EoNvzs[/youtube]

Give it three years and its could be looking like this :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdHtV2zD580[/youtube]

 

[jrb]

Flags, Banners, streamers all cost money

But my question related to atmosphere, flags, banner, streamers do not sing, cheer, shout. They are just hung over the hoardings, waved about or thrown about. So why do we need them or if people want them why don't they pay for them themselves? I have two flags, which I use now and again, but I bought them, I display them and I put them over the 'fencing' in front of me. People who sit across the aisle from me also have their own banners/flags which they have been using for years.

Again I am not criticising just asking and just curious as to why you think they are the things that create an atmosphere. Inanimate objects do not have a voice. The supporters do.

We know this. People start songs not flags. Flags is only one small part of it. Something visual creating conditions where fans start to treat home games with the passion of an away game. The kippax died in 1994. A generation has grown up with all seater stadiums. People have been split up. You have to spend money on creating the conditions because things aren't the same anymore. It's about fighting apathy and in terms of songs 1894 website will be out shortly and we will get the songs out to the supporters through that

-- Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:27 pm --

And jrb. Yes the club have helped. They helped get us over the line with the card display v bayern and provided logistical support to make that happen.

That's fair enough. It's good to hear. I appreciate City aren't a bottomless pit ;-), but it's good to hear they will contribute and help out if and when.

Manchester thanks Sheikh Mansour.