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Standing Room for Cup
- Thread starter PrestwichPeteMcfc
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The Northern Baptist
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kippaxchris said:Lavinda Past said:First - The cost would be prohibitive for most clubs
Second - Have you seen how 'safe standing' works? It's not what you'd expect...I don't think you'll like it!
Third - I don't think we could get it in place for tomorrow...
What is safe standing?
It's where you stand safely
Franny Lee's Barrel Chest
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PrestwichPeteMcfc said:Standing is currently banned in the 'top two flights' of English football, but do these rules apply to cup games?
If not, could we have lock away chairs and increase capacity fit games like tomorrow which is sold out?
It's nothing to do with what competition you're playing in. If you are a Premier League or Championship club you have to have an all seater stadium. If you have an all seater stadium then the ground safety certificate is issued on that basis. It's a condition of entry to the stadium that supporters obey the stadium safety rules or they can face ejection. We know that there is a certain amount of tolerance on this by the club in certain sections, but the fact is, there is no loophole that would allow standing for different competitions.
Mad Eyed Screamer
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cityboy5 said:Not quite true. You can stand in the championship.PrestwichPeteMcfc said:Standing is currently banned in the 'top two flights' of English football, but do these rules apply to cup games?
If not, could we have lock away chairs and increase capacity fit games like tomorrow which is sold out?
Clubs promoted into the Championship have three seasons to convert to all seated.<br /><br />-- Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:57 pm --<br /><br />
matrix said:How would it increase the capacity when people would be stood where a seat would of been?PrestwichPeteMcfc said:Standing is currently banned in the 'top two flights' of English football, but do these rules apply to cup games?
If not, could we have lock away chairs and increase capacity fit games like tomorrow which is sold out?
Because when you sit down your body is covering two steps, the one your feet are on and the one your arse sits over. Standing means you only need one step per person.
Howling Wolf
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fy6blue said:There is no such thing as safe standing. You could fall over at anytime. Sitting is almost as perilous. Lying down is the only safe way to watch any sport as you are already on the ground.
utter bollocks this mate, i laid down once and someone stepped on my face
Lavinda Past
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Mad Eyed Screamer said:cityboy5 said:Not quite true. You can stand in the championship.PrestwichPeteMcfc said:Standing is currently banned in the 'top two flights' of English football, but do these rules apply to cup games?
If not, could we have lock away chairs and increase capacity fit games like tomorrow which is sold out?
Clubs promoted into the Championship have three seasons to convert to all seated.
-- Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:57 pm --
matrix said:How would it increase the capacity when people would be stood where a seat would of been?PrestwichPeteMcfc said:Standing is currently banned in the 'top two flights' of English football, but do these rules apply to cup games?
If not, could we have lock away chairs and increase capacity fit games like tomorrow which is sold out?
Because when you sit down your body is covering two steps, the one your feet are on and the one your arse sits over. Standing means you only need one step per person.
I think you'll find that safe standing involves removal of the seat and installation of a barrier on the step. Only a certain number of people would be allowed on each row. You'd probably still have a ticket for a designated row.
I don't think there would be a significant increase in numbers. It's designed just to allow people to stand safely...
Yaya_Tony
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So no different to us then ffs?<br /><br />-- Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:02 am --<br /><br />cityboy5 said:Maybe its just one ground away fans can standPrestwichPeteMcfc said:cityboy5 said:Not quite true. You can stand in the championship.
Since when?
Anyone who has seen the safe standing structure realises this.Lavinda Past said:Mad Eyed Screamer said:cityboy5 said:Not quite true. You can stand in the championship.
Clubs promoted into the Championship have three seasons to convert to all seated.
-- Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:57 pm --
matrix said:How would it increase the capacity when people would be stood where a seat would of been?
Because when you sit down your body is covering two steps, the one your feet are on and the one your arse sits over. Standing means you only need one step per person.
I think you'll find that safe standing involves removal of the seat and installation of a barrier on the step. Only a certain number of people would be allowed on each row. You'd probably still have a ticket for a designated row.
I don't think there would be a significant increase in numbers. It's designed just to allow people to stand safely...
Mad Eyed Screamer
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Lavinda Past said:Mad Eyed Screamer said:cityboy5 said:Not quite true. You can stand in the championship.
Clubs promoted into the Championship have three seasons to convert to all seated.
-- Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:57 pm --
matrix said:How would it increase the capacity when people would be stood where a seat would of been?
Because when you sit down your body is covering two steps, the one your feet are on and the one your arse sits over. Standing means you only need one step per person.
I think you'll find that safe standing involves removal of the seat and installation of a barrier on the step. Only a certain number of people would be allowed on each row. You'd probably still have a ticket for a designated row.
I don't think there would be a significant increase in numbers. It's designed just to allow people to stand safely...
Oh for fucks sake.....
The seat is already attached to the barrier. For games it is required to be used (European / International games) the seat is unlocked and capacity reduced (though the seat itself is not used).
For every 1000 seats, 1800 can stand (apparently 9 people take up the space of 10 seated)
So an area of 3000 seated caters for 5400 standers. That is a significant increase.
Mad Eyed Screamer said:Lavinda Past said:Mad Eyed Screamer said:Clubs promoted into the Championship have three seasons to convert to all seated.
-- Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:57 pm --
Because when you sit down your body is covering two steps, the one your feet are on and the one your arse sits over. Standing means you only need one step per person.
I think you'll find that safe standing involves removal of the seat and installation of a barrier on the step. Only a certain number of people would be allowed on each row. You'd probably still have a ticket for a designated row.
I don't think there would be a significant increase in numbers. It's designed just to allow people to stand safely...
Oh for fucks sake.....
The seat is already attached to the barrier. For games it is required to be used (European / International games) the seat is unlocked and capacity reduced (though the seat itself is not used).
For every 1000 seats, 1800 can stand (apparently 9 people take up the space of 10 seated)
So an area of 3000 seated caters for 5400 standers. That is a significant increase.
Exactly, why do you think Dortmund's capacity for Bundesliga games (with standing allowed) is around 84,000 but in the champs league (where it isn't) it's down to 64,000 (as v City)