Stefan Ortega

I don't think we can sell him as he can sign free agent deals in January with any team as he's on an expiring contract.

The real question is do we release him or keep him for insurance.
He can sign a pre-contract agreement in January with foreign clubs but he can't play for them until the summer, unless of course we actually sell him in January.
 
Playing anywhere

Yeah I got what you meant. Playing anywhere and showing ambition are not the same thing though.

Besides we have no idea the extent of offers he might have had. Beyond the rumoured interest.

He's here now regardless.
 
Why should we keep him for insurance?
He's probably not going to play any minutes for us
If things go sideways, i.e one of our top 2 get injured then he is off the house couch.

Sure, its unlikely. But he is already here. And i personally like the guy and whR he's done for us. I am happy for him to stay as insurance
 
Why should we keep him for insurance?
He's probably not going to play any minutes for us

There’s no point in getting rid of him now, as we can’t use his squad place for another player til January.

We have the opportunity to re-evaluate in the winter window, and if we decide to bring in a right back or to fill another position - then it may be we decide he’s the one to make room.

But until then - if it’s not him, it’s an empty place in our squad list - which is of no use whatsoever to us.
 
In all this goalie merry-go-round I do feel sorry for Ortega. He's been the best number 2 we've had for years and years and barely did a thing wrong.

I thought the same until we gave him a run of games. Once we saw more of him we saw he was less of a keeper.

That FA Cup goal was horrendous v the rags and last season he had a genuine chance to usurp Ederson and wasn’t good at all.
 
I thought the same until we gave him a run of games. Once we saw more of him we saw he was less of a keeper.

That FA Cup goal was horrendous v the rags and last season he had a genuine chance to usurp Ederson and wasn’t good at all.
I don’t think that’s fair.

The entire squad, including the manager, let the club and the fans down in the cup final. Frankly for the entirety of last season, stretching back into the season before.
 
It was Bettinelli on the bench yesterday as the 3rd choice keeper. Rather than Ortega. Think that says something, myself.
 
I thought the same until we gave him a run of games. Once we saw more of him we saw he was less of a keeper.

That FA Cup goal was horrendous v the rags and last season he had a genuine chance to usurp Ederson and wasn’t good at all.
He had a run of games the season before and we won the fa cup, conceding one goal which was a dubious penalty. Last year to a man everyone wasn't up to it. Ederson had a stinker and Ortega didn't cover himself in any glory, which is hardly surprising considering our defence and vulnerabilities last year.
 
Often a contract will have an "unused substitute" clause. They get paid to sit on the bench. Ortega's number is likely higher than Bettineli's.

Assuming that is in there, I would imagine a player like him would be paid a weekly wage regardless.
 

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