Stefan Ortega

Every single player has it, of course they get a wage but no point giving Ortega an extra 10k to sit on the bench when Bettinelli can be third choice for a quarter of the price.
So we are saving 7.5k per match by putting Bettenelli on the bench instead of Ortega?
 
I reckon he's said no to a few moves and pissed off the club, hence the freeze out.
I think this but also was being kept around waiting for the Donna deal to happen, which took a while. so maybe the club at fault too.

Im amazed we haven't heard anything about him at all, especially with it being a World Cup year.
 
I think this but also was being kept around waiting for the Donna deal to happen, which took a while. so maybe the club at fault too.

Im amazed we haven't heard anything about him at all, especially with it being a World Cup year.
Yeah, I mean tbh its probably one of those where any move is half the wage, his odds of getting in the german squad were pretty miniscule anyway, so he's just decided to take the money, probably assumed he'd still make the bench/be involved in some capacity, so turned down moves. He was linked with clubs like burnley/sunderland etc. Club haven't liked that one bit, so have frozen him out.
 
I think this but also was being kept around waiting for the Donna deal to happen, which took a while. so maybe the club at fault too.

Im amazed we haven't heard anything about him at all, especially with it being a World Cup year.
Maybe no fault from either side, just unfortunate timing? Donner & Trafford were always going to be 1st & 2nd choice so he's stuck in limbo until January rather than be "frozen out" as some put it?
 
Maybe no fault from either side, just unfortunate timing? Donner & Trafford were always going to be 1st & 2nd choice so he's stuck in limbo until January rather than be "frozen out" as some put it?
Absolutely no reason to put bettinelli on benches over ortega if he's not being frozen out. He's clearly being punished for not leaving/city are trying to ensure he leaves in January
 
Absolutely no reason to put bettinelli on benches over ortega if he's not being frozen out. He's clearly being punished for not leaving/city are trying to ensure he leaves in January

Although Bettinelli, I'm sure, was signed to be 3rd choice and leaving him out straight after he signed would be punishing him unfairly also.

I expect we may have Bettinelli as 3rd choice for a few years all being well, so I guess we're preferring to treat him well rather than the guy who will no doubt move on relatively soon.

Bit of a shame for Ortega, I do hope something is sorted for him early January.
 
Absolutely no reason to put bettinelli on benches over ortega if he's not being frozen out. He's clearly being punished for not leaving/city are trying to ensure he leaves in January
Ortega had plenty of opportunity to leave, even had the Burnley offer so he wouldn’t have had to uproot his life. He can’t have any complaints.

He’s still here because he likes the money we pay him even though he knows he’s not wanted.
 
That would rather depend on his contract would it not? I can't see why he would have an appearances clause.
Every single player will have some sort of bonus for being on the bench and as as second choice keeper id imagine that Ortega in fact has a very nice bonus for an appearance fee because they are expected to be quite rare.

Seems professional enough to do his training and go through the motions but the club made it clear he wasn't required so why would he be on the bench?
 
I have heard of appearance bonuses. I have never heard of being named to the bench bonus. It’s not a thing.
 
Wasn't it posted on here, somewhere, the interview with Scott Carson on Ben Foster YT channel.
Said when he was at Liverpool he got bonuses for wins in the CL. Subs got 50 per cent of starters bonus.

When he signed for City there was no bonus; not even for the starters.
He asked Txixi why not?
Txixi said there's bonuses for winning the competition not for winning games!
 
I can assure you that it is, source being a close friend having made over 200 apps in the championship and if they are at that level, they are definitely in the prem.
That doesn't mean that every single club and every single player has the same contract. I guess he'll be gone on a free in a couple of months or so anyway. If his intention is to make the Germany squad for the WC he'll have no choice.
 
That doesn't mean that every single club and every single player has the same contract. I guess he'll be gone on a free in a couple of months or so anyway. If his intention is to make the Germany squad for the WC he'll have no choice.
It’s just a standard clause. He isn’t getting in that squad and he knows it.
 
Ortega had plenty of opportunity to leave, even had the Burnley offer so he wouldn’t have had to uproot his life. He can’t have any complaints.

He’s still here because he likes the money we pay him even though he knows he’s not wanted.
this is obviously whats happening. Had offers, turned them down to stay on City cash, club is pissed.
 
I have heard of appearance bonuses. I have never heard of being named to the bench bonus. It’s not a thing.

Whether it is or isn't I have no idea. But it makes sense for keepers, more than outfield players. Otherwise a second choice keeper would hardly ever get a bonus.
 

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