Stoke V City Post Match Discussion Thread [Merged]

[Matty]

35 million quid for dzeko and he can't play unless he's a regular what a joke! what a waste of money,the sooner we get rid the better!

How much Balo played? He is regular and still he cant play well.
Do not be dumb fella, Dzeko is like Carlos - he also did not play after Munich and look at him. What about Gael, Barry, AJ, Silva, Kolo and many others? They are also waste of money?????

All what I do not expect from Dzeko is that poor running on the pitch. He is like invalid with broken lags. I watch Bosnia game against Brasil - he was running like a madman, steel a ball and give a cross to another player to scorehttp:(//www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/02/29/bosnia-vs-brazil-2012-highlights-1-2-goals-video-ibisevic-marcelo-papac-own-goal-friendly-bih/). He just do not give enough to MC and I think it is all Manchinis fault.

Hold on. What you're saying here is that Dzeko, as proven by the Bosnia v Brazil game, is capable of running around like a madman, winning the ball, crossing the ball, creating goals yet, in your own words "he just do not give enough to MC..." yet this is MANCINI's fault?!!!! If a player isn't giving 100%, is capable of greater effort, and greater ability/skills, and is simply not performing at the level he has proven he can then i think it's THE PLAYER's fault. When will our increasingly annoying Bosnian contingent just accept the fact that Dzeko hasn't been good enough on many occasions this season and that he must shoulder the lions share of the blame for this. Tactics and formation be damned, a player can still play well even if not in their optimum position.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Crouch's goal could easily be goal of the season which would make a change from last years off a fuckin' shin pad.....

A massive deflection would have taken it out of the keepers reach like Cahill against us last week, yesterday's beat the defender and keeper because of its quality, nothing else

I have no idea why people choose to invade fan forums? Living near Stoke now however I'm not at all surprised that you feel the need to put your oar in...... Just saying

Well it's not really invading mate is it? Man City fans popped on The Oatcake enough times before, I was just giving you my opinion then I won't post again. I'm not really sure what the hell the last part is supposed to mean, because with ambiguity comes irrelevance.

Oar in, opinion made, done.

I should explain, the vast majority of the local population that I see on a day trip into Hanley are tattooed overweight and have lots to say for themselves. The men are even worse.

Its a shit-hole of a place and all things are relative, if its all you have known, fine, its the elephant in the room. Stoke makes Stockport look like the Costa Del Fuckin' Sol

Clear enough Smart Arse??

 

[Happy Feet]

To sum it up we played shit, got a point and move on to the next game.

 

[God game lover]

35 million quid for dzeko and he can't play unless he's a regular what a joke! what a waste of money,the sooner we get rid the better!

How much Balo played? He is regular and still he cant play well.
Do not be dumb fella, Dzeko is like Carlos - he also did not play after Munich and look at him. What about Gael, Barry, AJ, Silva, Kolo and many others? They are also waste of money?????

All what I do not expect from Dzeko is that poor running on the pitch. He is like invalid with broken lags. I watch Bosnia game against Brasil - he was running like a madman, steel a ball and give a cross to another player to scorehttp:(//www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/02/29/bosnia-vs-brazil-2012-highlights-1-2-goals-video-ibisevic-marcelo-papac-own-goal-friendly-bih/). He just do not give enough to MC and I think it is all Manchinis fault.

Hold on. What you're saying here is that Dzeko, as proven by the Bosnia v Brazil game, is capable of running around like a madman, winning the ball, crossing the ball, creating goals yet, in your own words "he just do not give enough to MC..." yet this is MANCINI's fault?!!!! If a player isn't giving 100%, is capable of greater effort, and greater ability/skills, and is simply not performing at the level he has proven he can then i think it's THE PLAYER's fault. When will our increasingly annoying Bosnian contingent just accept the fact that Dzeko hasn't been good enough on many occasions this season and that he must shoulder the lions share of the blame for this. Tactics and formation be damned, a player can still play well even if not in their optimum position.

I tell he is not motivated enough. I feel sorry for him. You play good (Sporting game home) - next game bench. What manager wants to say to him? You not good enough for me even if you improve our game. He do that to Kolarov and Milner also (yea and Tevez in beginning of the season). As for Dzekos play in Bosnia team - i watch some games whe he was brilliant (games against Belgium away - Crouch goal is 0) and against Turkey home (3:2 That goal is also amazing) look

Bosnia - Turkey
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_9rE&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_ ... re=related</a>
Dzekos goal is bosnia second
and

Belgium - Bosnia
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA</a>
first goal is Dzekos - Their commentator is absolutely crazy :-D

 

[Matty]

How much Balo played? He is regular and still he cant play well.
Do not be dumb fella, Dzeko is like Carlos - he also did not play after Munich and look at him. What about Gael, Barry, AJ, Silva, Kolo and many others? They are also waste of money?????

All what I do not expect from Dzeko is that poor running on the pitch. He is like invalid with broken lags. I watch Bosnia game against Brasil - he was running like a madman, steel a ball and give a cross to another player to scorehttp:(//www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/02/29/bosnia-vs-brazil-2012-highlights-1-2-goals-video-ibisevic-marcelo-papac-own-goal-friendly-bih/). He just do not give enough to MC and I think it is all Manchinis fault.

Hold on. What you're saying here is that Dzeko, as proven by the Bosnia v Brazil game, is capable of running around like a madman, winning the ball, crossing the ball, creating goals yet, in your own words "he just do not give enough to MC..." yet this is MANCINI's fault?!!!! If a player isn't giving 100%, is capable of greater effort, and greater ability/skills, and is simply not performing at the level he has proven he can then i think it's THE PLAYER's fault. When will our increasingly annoying Bosnian contingent just accept the fact that Dzeko hasn't been good enough on many occasions this season and that he must shoulder the lions share of the blame for this. Tactics and formation be damned, a player can still play well even if not in their optimum position.

I tell he is not motivated enough. I feel sorry for him. You play good (Sporting game home) - next game bench. What manager wants to say to him? You not good enough for me even if you improve our game. He do that to Kolarov and Milner also (yea and Tevez in beginning of the season). As for Dzekos play in Bosnia team - i watch some games whe he was brilliant (games against Belgium away - Crouch goal is 0) and against Turkey home (3:2 That goal is also amazing) look

Bosnia - Turkey
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_9rE&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_ ... re=related</a>
Dzekos goal is bosnia second
and

Belgium - Bosnia
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA</a>
first goal is Dzekos - Their commentator is absolutely crazy :-D

A great deal of players have to cope with, and accept, a squad rotation system. We can only play 2 strikers, at most, and on occasion have played only 1 striker this season. We've got Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero. This means at least 1 of them will always be on the bench, sometimes 2 of them. Dzeko needs to accept this. Aguero has scored 24 goals this season, Dzeko 18 and Balotelli 15 so it's clear to see from this that all 3 have been given their opportunities. All have played well yet found themselves on the bench for the next game. Any of them that don't like this really need to grow up, this is professional football, the manager picks what he believes is the best squad for any given game, and the players need to go out there and perform.

Dzeko - 38 League & Cup appearances, 14 as substitute.

Balotelli - 29 League & Cup appearances, 10 as substitute.

Aguero - 40 League & Cup appearances, 8 as substitute.

I'd say that Dzeko has done pretty well in terms of the games he's appeared in to be honest.

 

[God game lover]

Hold on. What you're saying here is that Dzeko, as proven by the Bosnia v Brazil game, is capable of running around like a madman, winning the ball, crossing the ball, creating goals yet, in your own words "he just do not give enough to MC..." yet this is MANCINI's fault?!!!! If a player isn't giving 100%, is capable of greater effort, and greater ability/skills, and is simply not performing at the level he has proven he can then i think it's THE PLAYER's fault. When will our increasingly annoying Bosnian contingent just accept the fact that Dzeko hasn't been good enough on many occasions this season and that he must shoulder the lions share of the blame for this. Tactics and formation be damned, a player can still play well even if not in their optimum position.

I tell he is not motivated enough. I feel sorry for him. You play good (Sporting game home) - next game bench. What manager wants to say to him? You not good enough for me even if you improve our game. He do that to Kolarov and Milner also (yea and Tevez in beginning of the season). As for Dzekos play in Bosnia team - i watch some games whe he was brilliant (games against Belgium away - Crouch goal is 0) and against Turkey home (3:2 That goal is also amazing) look

Bosnia - Turkey
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_9rE&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_ ... re=related</a>
Dzekos goal is bosnia second
and

Belgium - Bosnia
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA</a>
first goal is Dzekos - Their commentator is absolutely crazy :-D

A great deal of players have to cope with, and accept, a squad rotation system. We can only play 2 strikers, at most, and on occasion have played only 1 striker this season. We've got Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero. This means at least 1 of them will always be on the bench, sometimes 2 of them. Dzeko needs to accept this. Aguero has scored 24 goals this season, Dzeko 18 and Balotelli 15 so it's clear to see from this that all 3 have been given their opportunities. All have played well yet found themselves on the bench for the next game. Any of them that don't like this really need to grow up, this is professional football, the manager picks what he believes is the best squad for any given game, and the players need to go out there and perform.

Dzeko - 38 League & Cup appearances, 14 as substitute.

Balotelli - 29 League & Cup appearances, 10 as substitute.

Aguero - 40 League & Cup appearances, 8 as substitute.

I'd say that Dzeko has done pretty well in terms of the games he's appeared in to be honest.

Yeah if they are professionals they must accept that. I just want to tell that boss cannot put one player 6 games in row on bench and expected to score. I tell this not just for Dzeko but for everyone in MC. It is obvious that boss do not count on Dzeko after Munich game. I'm not bosnian but I'm fear. And our "biggest" fans on this forums humiliate Dzeko and now Balo with word "twat", "useless" and so on.... For me one "big" player and one small
(or two) can play in attack. Dzeko can play Tevez and Aguero but not with Balo. For me I would start Balo and tel him to kick a** ruining after ball, replace him with Dzeko at halftime and tell him the same. Pressure on defense would be enormous in 90 min.

 

[adelaideblue69]

sorry 25 million, miss hit the target like dzeko,I'm not blaming him for his performance against stoke what I am saying if you're paying that type of money you can't have a player that moans about being a squad player and not getting in the starting lineup week in and week out if you're that good it shouldn't matter.

 

[Matty]

I tell he is not motivated enough. I feel sorry for him. You play good (Sporting game home) - next game bench. What manager wants to say to him? You not good enough for me even if you improve our game. He do that to Kolarov and Milner also (yea and Tevez in beginning of the season). As for Dzekos play in Bosnia team - i watch some games whe he was brilliant (games against Belgium away - Crouch goal is 0) and against Turkey home (3:2 That goal is also amazing) look

Bosnia - Turkey
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_9rE&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDhxYs_ ... re=related</a>
Dzekos goal is bosnia second
and

Belgium - Bosnia
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB5F6DD1iA</a>
first goal is Dzekos - Their commentator is absolutely crazy :-D

A great deal of players have to cope with, and accept, a squad rotation system. We can only play 2 strikers, at most, and on occasion have played only 1 striker this season. We've got Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero. This means at least 1 of them will always be on the bench, sometimes 2 of them. Dzeko needs to accept this. Aguero has scored 24 goals this season, Dzeko 18 and Balotelli 15 so it's clear to see from this that all 3 have been given their opportunities. All have played well yet found themselves on the bench for the next game. Any of them that don't like this really need to grow up, this is professional football, the manager picks what he believes is the best squad for any given game, and the players need to go out there and perform.

Dzeko - 38 League & Cup appearances, 14 as substitute.

Balotelli - 29 League & Cup appearances, 10 as substitute.

Aguero - 40 League & Cup appearances, 8 as substitute.

I'd say that Dzeko has done pretty well in terms of the games he's appeared in to be honest.

Yeah if they are professionals they must accept that. I just want to tell that boss cannot put one player 6 games in row on bench and expected to score. I tell this not just for Dzeko but for everyone in MC. It is obvious that boss do not count on Dzeko after Munich game. I'm not bosnian but I'm fear. And our "biggest" fans on this forums humiliate Dzeko and now Balo with word "twat", "useless" and so on.... For me one "big" player and one small
(or two) can play in attack. Dzeko can play Tevez and Aguero but not with Balo. For me I would start Balo and tel him to kick a** ruining after ball, replace him with Dzeko at halftime and tell him the same. Pressure on defense would be enormous in 90 min.

We're going round in circles here. I've proven by the stats above that Dzeko hasn't been treated any differently to our other striking options. He's played less often than Aguero, but more often than Balotelli, that's not surprising given Aguero has been the more prolific, and the more consistent in his performances, plus Balotelli has missed several games through suspension. City have played 46 games so far this season, Dzeko has played some part in 38 of those matches, that's pretty good going by anyones standards.

As for you ascertion that you aren't Bosnian, well, I'll have to take your word for that. What I do know for a fact however is that the IP address you posted the above message from, and the IP address you've posted all your most recent messages from, are based in Bosnia.