Stoke's Football

i will wade in with my two penneth worth because i completely diagree with what you are saying damocles. answer me this;

have city ever narrowed there pitch to the narrowest dimensions allowed to stifle free flowing attacking wingers.
have city ever employed blatant time wasting techniques throughout games (delaps towels)
have city ever abused a privelege (such as use of a towel) like stoke do by timewasting, setting up to throw the ball long and then throw it short
have city ever employed rough house tactics throughout the whole team for season after season

i aint arguing that this turgid shit that stoke pass off for football is not 'successful' (if your ambition is mid table) , but to me it stinks. it takes gamesmanship and the rules with regards to the spirit of the game to its outer limit. i will not mourn the day when stoke get relegated from this division.
 
I don't think anyone is speaking down to Stoke, i mean after all they have beaten us. What people are saying i think is who wants to pay 50 quid + for a day out to watch a team hoof the ball up the pitch like pub teams do.
 
Damocles said:
We ensured our survival from relegation and our promotion to the Premiership by kicking people off of the pitch and playing long ball, defensive football.

and with the greatest respect, this is just a complete load of bollocks ^^^^^^^^^^
 
kippaxwarrior said:
They are the new Wimbledon
Ugly to watch a team just hoof the ball forward and use a throw-ins to score goals. They are also dirty bastards(see Ramsey)
Ive paid £70 this season to watch that shite

Just shows what numptys you are.

Two of our goals the other night against you were good goals hardly hoof ball and throws in only as you say.

As for our dirty style your listening to much to wenger. Firstly today was our first booking against arsenal since we came back up and yet he cries his eyes out and throws wobblys. Admitedly today was terrible for ramsey but was a accident pure and simple. Was the kick in whelans nuts a accidcent ? i don't think so.
 
warpig said:
Damocles said:
We ensured our survival from relegation and our promotion to the Premiership by kicking people off of the pitch and playing long ball, defensive football.

and with the greatest respect, this is just a complete load of bollocks ^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, because Dickov, Tiatto, Barton, Foe, Morrison, Prior, Pearce, Pollock, Jobson, Mettemo, Thatcher, Dunne, De Jong, and Bellamy are all tremendously silky footballers who would never dream of kicking an opponent, or playing a long ball.

I'm sure there's more.
 
Damocles said:
Nice little history trivia here. It took the English a while to actually catch on to the passing style of football. In the 19th century, the aim of the game was to kick it as long as you could, then run on to it while getting fouled from everyone. It was a sign of manliness, holding on to the ball for a long time while under pressure.
The South Americans and the Spanish however, developed a new style of football, were passing was the name of the game. They would actually try to pass things in to the net, and crossing a ball, or doing a solo run was seen as a lack of technique. Hooving the ball would generate boos from the other players and the crowd. The modern game was actually developed through a combination of these two style being mixed together in a melting pot of footy.

This could be why we have the stereotype that all Latin people can pass, whilst all English players are determined and put in loads of effort.

Well your little version of football history dosn't tally up with my version of footballs history. IIRC in the late 1800 when football was finally turning into the game that we know today. Its was infact the scots that invented the passing game which caught on in England after they gave a bunch of English public school boys (they were the biggest team around back then) a dam good beating.

BTW in reply to your opening post, city as far as i can remember has never played like Stoke. Yes i'll agree with you that we have had enforcers and been dirty at times. However thats normal every team does that even top 4 teams do (bin dippers the other week were like that). Stoke though have taken it to a whole other level and filled there team with 6ft odd dirty bastards that are always looking for the long ball.

Think about the players we've had over the years Beagrie, Bishop, SWP (the first time), Berkovich, Benarbia, Kanchelski. Even Darren Huckerby who couldn't score in a brothel was a proper footballer that passed the ball on the ground and ran with it. Also as some one else has already said posisbly one of the best footballing sides we've ever had for the divison it was in was Keegans when we where battering everyone in the first division, that was what 8 years ago.

Theres a right way of staying in the league and theres a wrong way to staying in the league. We've litterally been relegated because we've at least tried to play football as its ment to be played. Admitedly we were shit at it thats why we got relegated, but at least we tried.
 
Damocles said:
warpig said:
and with the greatest respect, this is just a complete load of bollocks ^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, because Dickov, Tiatto, Barton, Foe, Morrison, Prior, Pearce, Pollock, Jobson, Mettemo, Thatcher, Dunne, De Jong, and Bellamy are all tremendously silky footballers who would never dream of kicking an opponent, or playing a long ball.

I'm sure there's more.

nah, your miles off it here.

im not arguing that every team doesnt have a so called hard man player, as mancini would say, this is obvious. what im saying is weve never, ever packed a team out with them like stoke have. also, although we may have resorted to long ball football on occasions in the past, it is because the players we had at the time were shit. they were not playing to the system instructed on them and did it as it was the easy option for their limited abilities. stoke have been set up by pulis to play the long ball game.

to say we came up to the premier league playing long ball defensive football is completely laughable to be honest. under keegan we won that division playing some of the best football ive ever seen a city team play.

you have also conveniently failed to answer the four questions i posed.
 

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