Strength in Depth Myth

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Gaz1105

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Yes we have a big squad but when you break it down, we seriously lack in areas when certain players are missing, Harry Redknapp had it right when he said we look average when Hart, Kompany, Silva & Aguero are missing / not at the races - YES they are 4 world class players and I'm not expecting to have someone of a similar class as back up but the gulf in class between first team 11 and squad players is alarming
 
You are listening to harry rednapp?

We have the best squad we have ever had,some are new and haven't played together,patience is required
 
It's not a myth IMO as the depth is there for all to see. The team we put out v Spurs was still impressively strong.

The problem is not adapting when we miss key players.

You take Messi away from Barca and they look a different team. You take Ronaldo or Hazard from Madrid and Chelsea and the same. It's only natural that when we miss Silva, the same happens.

That's when Pellers should be getting the best out of Sterling and KDB rather than hoping Nasri and an out of position Yaya can fill the void.
 
Gaz1105 said:
Yes we have a big squad but when you break it down, we seriously lack in areas when certain players are missing, Harry Redknapp had it right when he said we look average when Hart, Kompany, Silva & Aguero are missing / not at the races - YES they are 4 world class players and I'm not expecting to have someone of a similar class as back up but the gulf in class between first team 11 and squad players is alarming
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Take the 4/5 best players out of any team I suspect they might look average to
 
We have depth of talent, look at our second 11 and then decide how many of them would beat out the season 11 at any other club in England, half our 'second' players would be starters.

Talent itself ain't the problem, a worse squad with more desire and drive might do better in fact.
 
If we play any team in the premier, or majority of teams in Europe, no injuries or suspension for both teams, we have the strongest bench by far, and far better players that don't even make the bench
 
Agree totally.

Hart > Willy - embarrassing gulf.
Vince/Manga > Demi/Otamendi - massive gulf.
Ferna/Yaya > Delph/Fernando - massive gulf.
KDB > Navas - LOL
Sterling > Nasri - Ok he's not playing great but it'd take a massive problem for me to pick Nasri
Kun > Bony - fucking lol.
Silva is incomparable so I will spare the squad that.
 
quiet_riot said:
Agree totally.

Hart > Willy - embarrassing gulf.
Vince/Manga > Demi/Otamendi - massive gulf.
Ferna/Yaya > Delph/Fernando - massive gulf.
KDB > Navas - LOL
Sterling > Nasri - Ok he's not playing great but it'd take a massive problem for me to pick Nasri
Kun > Bony - fucking lol.
Silva is incomparable so I will spare the squad that.
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Blimey
 
We do have strength in depth when the squad is fully fit. Were unlucky with injuries. We get some more players back and we will see our real strength in depth. Harry was always going to big up the Spurs win saying were lacking a squad is crazy. I think you look at whos to come back soon and there is more positives than negatives to our squad.
 
Wouldn't this be the same at most sides?

The only areas that concern me are reserve keeper not being even close to good enough, both left backs being iffy and midfield being a bit week when Toure is out. The lack of a 4th striker could hurt us too if things carry on the way they are.

I think the otamendi money could have been better spent.
 
Gaz1105 said:
Yes we have a big squad but when you break it down, we seriously lack in areas when certain players are missing, Harry Redknapp had it right when he said we look average when Hart, Kompany, Silva & Aguero are missing / not at the races - YES they are 4 world class players and I'm not expecting to have someone of a similar class as back up but the gulf in class between first team 11 and squad players is alarming
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Listen mate, we have the BEST squad in this division, our problem is multiple injuries to the team that takes to the pitch - it's not rocket science mate, continuity for the starting eleven is key, we have started the season with arguably second choice fullbacks , they have done well because they have trained and played since the season began , Clichy and Zabba imo are our first choice fullbacks , Kompany and Mangala have been great this season- both injured v Spurs- Demi and Otimendi playing with full backs they haven't had enough minutes on the pitch with to form a strong unit. Hart injured, Silva injured, Nasri injured- now Yaya injured, and Sergio struggling with form.

Some cunts are going to get a fucking hiding when we have anything like a settled eleven and bench.

Champions elect mate.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Wouldn't this be the same at most sides?

The only areas that concern me are reserve keeper not being even close to good enough, both left backs being iffy and midfield being a bit week when Toure is out. The lack of a 4th striker could hurt us too if things carry on the way they are.

I think the otamendi money could have been better spent.
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It is though, it's all you here when the cunts at Old Toilet have injuries or Chelsea or Arsenal, why are we any different.

Agree about Willy though, fucking useless!

We are the best team in this league mate.
 
We do have backup in every position but probably only have 2 world class players, Silva and Aguero. 2 years ago I would have added Zabaleta, Kompany and Toure to that list but Zaba and Yaya are both on the decline which is only natural as they are both in their 30's and on the evidence of last season Vinny is probably coming towards the end of his peak. In my opinion, the areas we desperately need to strengthen next summer are GK, LB, CM and possibly a top class striker to provide competition for Sergio. Along with Chelsea we have the strongest squad in the league and I think we will have enough to win it but I agree that our squad is overrated probably due to the inflated transfer fees we pay.
 
I did not have to listen to Redknapp to know we do not have a great squad. A great 1st team yes but squad no. Anyone who says we do then is living in cloud cuckoo land. The minute I hear Navas is playing then I think we might as well play with 10 men. He can't get to the by line & put a cross in. This was well documented against WHU. Willie in goals, may as well have given the academy goalie the chance of experience. We paid double what Sterling is worth. Goes missing from his wing to much & chokes up the center of midfield. His shooting is so weak it is laughable. I could go on about so many 2nd fringe players but it would take to long. Move on the dead wood no hopes. Then lets build a strong squad, starting by giving some of the younger lads a chance.
 
Gaz1105 said:
Yes we have a big squad but when you break it down, we seriously lack in areas when certain players are missing, Harry Redknapp had it right when he said we look average when Hart, Kompany, Silva & Aguero are missing / not at the races - YES they are 4 world class players and I'm not expecting to have someone of a similar class as back up but the gulf in class between first team 11 and squad players is alarming
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If we had a fully fit squad to choose from, our starting eleven and sub's bench would be fantastic. At this moment in time due to all our injuries, the starting eleven is still strong but the bench , bang average.
 
Anyone who thinks thinks we lack depth with our squad is fucking cuckoo or a spoilt mardarse. These knee jerk threads are popping up all over.

This squad is in the top 5/6 in Europe and proven to be the best in the Prem over the last 4 years.
 
quiet_riot said:
Agree totally.

Hart > Willy - embarrassing gulf.
Vince/Manga > Demi/Otamendi - massive gulf.
Dinho/Yaya > Delph/Fernando - massive gulf.
KDB > Navas - LOL
Sterling > Nasri - Ok he's not playing great but it'd take a massive problem for me to pick Nasri
Kun > Bony - fucking lol.
Silva is incomparable so I will spare the squad that.
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Yep I mostly agree as Sterling is looking like we did indeed pay about twice what he was worth. In squad terms we are a class act short in defence and one in attack plus Joe needs better back up than he has.
 
quiet_riot said:
Agree totally.

Hart > Willy - embarrassing gulf.
Vince/Manga > Demi/Otamendi - massive gulf.
Ferna/Yaya > Delph/Fernando - massive gulf.
KDB > Navas - LOL
Sterling > Nasri - Ok he's not playing great but it'd take a massive problem for me to pick Nasri
Kun > Bony - fucking lol.
Silva is incomparable so I will spare the squad that.
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our second string eleven is worse than our first choice? fucking hell mate, that's some revelation
 
Gaz1105 said:
Yes we have a big squad but when you break it down, we seriously lack in areas when certain players are missing, Harry Redknapp had it right when he said we look average when Hart, Kompany, Silva & Aguero are missing / not at the races - YES they are 4 world class players and I'm not expecting to have someone of a similar class as back up but the gulf in class between first team 11 and squad players is alarming
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The squad isn't the problem per se, it's the managers tactics, and not for the first time I refer to the high defensive line.

It is quite frankly killing us at the moment with the players that we can put onto the pitch can't play it, as they don't have pace to recover at the back.

The manager not the squad is to blame, simples!!
 
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