Suicide

[mammutly]

Might be over broadening the issue, but the sort of anger, grief and confusion expressed by the relatives and friends in relation to a suicide is similar to that felt by the children of parents who die of smoking related diseases. They often feel that their parent killed themselves. I suppose in one way smoking is slow suicide.

What age children are you talking about ? My mum died of lung cancer when I was 29 and I have never for one minute blamed her.

Children aged children. Say 12 and under.

In my job I've often met with children who have been through one form of tradgedy or another. It is notable that young children these days are very aware of the dangers of smoking and they do have difficulty accepting that it's not just a simple choice thing.

Sorry about your mum. I'm lucky in that both my parents gave up smoking in their late 30's, otherwise it's more than likely that one or both of them would have died by now.

I smoked for more than 12 years myself, so I do understand the appeal.

 

[stony]

Might be over broadening the issue, but the sort of anger, grief and confusion expressed by the relatives and friends in relation to a suicide is similar to that felt by the children of parents who die of smoking related diseases. They often feel that their parent killed themselves. I suppose in one way smoking is slow suicide.

What age children are you talking about ? My mum died of lung cancer when I was 29 and I have never for one minute blamed her.

Children aged children. Say 12 and under.

In my job I've often met with children who have been through one form of tradgedy or another. It is notable that young children these days are very aware of the dangers of smoking and they do have difficulty accepting that it's not just a simple choice thing.

Sorry about your mum. I'm lucky in that both my parents gave up smoking in their late 30's, otherwise it's more than likely that one or both of them would have died by now.

I smoked for more than 12 years myself, so I do understand the appeal.

Thank you.


I remember as a kid my mum trying to put me off smoking. She would harp on about it everyday. Funnily enough, it was the fiscal side of it that she tried to persuade me with. Telling me I'd never have any money if I smoked.
I gave my kids the same anti-smoking lectures, but I emphasised the health issue rather than the financial one.
I was more successful than my mum though. Neither of my kids smoke and although I stopped smoking over 7 years ago, after 25 years of heavy smoking, most of the damage has already been done.

 

[mammutly]

Might be over broadening the issue, but the sort of anger, grief and confusion expressed by the relatives and friends in relation to a suicide is similar to that felt by the children of parents who die of smoking related diseases. They often feel that their parent killed themselves. I suppose in one way smoking is slow suicide.

What age children are you talking about ? My mum died of lung cancer when I was 29 and I have never for one minute blamed her.

Children aged children. Say 12 and under.

In my job I've often met with children who have been through one form of tradgedy or another. It is notable that young children these days are very aware of the dangers of smoking and they do have difficulty accepting that it's not just a simple choice thing.

Sorry about your mum. I'm lucky in that both my parents gave up smoking in their late 30's, otherwise it's more than likely that one or both of them would have died by now.

I smoked for more than 12 years myself, so I do understand the appeal.

Thank you.


I remember as a kid my mum trying to put me off smoking. She would harp on about it everyday. Funnily enough, it was the fiscal side of it that she tried to persuade me with. Telling me I'd never have any money if I smoked.
I gave my kids the same anti-smoking lectures, but I emphasised the health issue rather than the financial one.
I was more successful than my mum though. Neither of my kids smoke and although I stopped smoking over 7 years ago, after 25 years of heavy smoking, most of the damage has already been done.

Statistically, your chances of contracting cancer revert to normal after 5 years of giving up smoking, so you're over that one. You've also significantly lessened the chance of developing chronic lung disease and a host of coronary and circulatory problems. Also the rate at which any such problem might progress is significantly slower in non smokers.
Some damage may well remain, but you've done yourself a lot of good by giving up. It isn't easy but it's better than killing yourself.

 

[mackenzie]

Suicide is neither a weakness nor a strength, it is simply a state of mind that few of us (thankfully) will ever find ourselves in. That is why it is impossible to judge unless you have reached that state.

I am sure that if one of my nearest and dearest acted in such a way I would go through a whole gamut of emotions as in sorrow, pity, anger,incomprehension and a feelings of futility and guilt.

Yet I would always love them. And the final emotion would probably be pity. What that would be coupled with would depend on the individual and their circumstances that led to it. The suicide of a terminally ill person is radically different from that of some others, for example.

 

[supersub]

u know that some people jump off buildings and that to commit suicide? do u think half of them instantly regrett it??? then spend the rest of the fall wishing they hadnt done it???

 

[der-bomber]

'Suicide is Painless'

Through early morning fog I see

visions of the things to be

the pains that are withheld for me

I realize and I can see...

[REFRAIN]:

that suicide is painless

It brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

I try to find a way to make

all our little joys relate

without that ever-present hate

but now I know that it's too late, and...

[REFRAIN]

The game of life is hard to play

I'm gonna lose it anyway

The losing card I'll someday lay

so this is all I have to say.

[REFRAIN]

The only way to win is cheat

And lay it down before I'm beat

and to another give my seat

for that's the only painless feat.

[REFRAIN]

The sword of time will pierce our skins

It doesn't hurt when it begins

But as it works its way on in

The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[REFRAIN]

A brave man once requested me

to answer questions that are key

is it to be or not to be

and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

[REFRAIN]

'Cause suicide is painless

it brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

...and you can do the same thing if you please.

 

[Scottyboi]

Suicide is something no one will every understand. Everyones mind is different you can have a really shit week and think wtf is the point. But for some it gets too much. My cousin was 37 i think and killed himself after splitting up with his wife was completly out the blue. Shit happens.
There is still alot to live for. I feel sorry for some people who get into debt and them kill themselves. Companys love to fuck people over these days it aint nice.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

this threads disturbing

Totally agree.

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