Syria (merged)

[BoyBlue_1985]

Got a horrible feeling that Dai Cameron is going to go against his word and the wish of parliament and join in with the impending invasion of Syria.

He cant, he would be removed from his post if he even tried. He has not got the power of a president who is also a commander in cheif

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Got a horrible feeling that Dai Cameron is going to go against his word and the wish of parliament and join in with the impending invasion of Syria.

He cant, he would be removed from his post if he even tried. He has not got the power of a president who is also a commander in cheif

Technically the president only has the power during war, which has to be declared by congress, however if you call it an intervention or a police action you do not have to get approval.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Got a horrible feeling that Dai Cameron is going to go against his word and the wish of parliament and join in with the impending invasion of Syria.

He cant, he would be removed from his post if he even tried. He has not got the power of a president who is also a commander in cheif

Technically the president only has the power during war, which has to be declared by congress, however if you call it an intervention or a police action you do not have to get approval.

Good old technicalities. The only person that can send the UK to war without government approval is the Queen (or monarch at the time) and as im guessing she wont be doing that we would need a vote.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

He cant, he would be removed from his post if he even tried. He has not got the power of a president who is also a commander in cheif

Technically the president only has the power during war, which has to be declared by congress, however if you call it an intervention or a police action you do not have to get approval.

Good old technicalities. The only person that can send the UK to war without government approval is the Queen (or monarch at the time) and as im guessing she wont be doing that we would need a vote.

We have not declared war since 1942 because we like our good old UK technicalities too.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Technically the president only has the power during war, which has to be declared by congress, however if you call it an intervention or a police action you do not have to get approval.

Good old technicalities. The only person that can send the UK to war without government approval is the Queen (or monarch at the time) and as im guessing she wont be doing that we would need a vote.

We have not declared war since 1942 because we like our good old UK technicalities too.

I remember the declaration of war on Thailand like it was yesterday

 

[fredmont]

Any chance of Cameron butting out? Can't think of many who might be interested in what he now has to say on the matter.

Wouldn't surprise me if he requests a second vote in the future

 

[Rascal]

Thank fuck for Putin

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Thank fuck for Putin

Yes, the old chap has managed to protect his $5 billion arms deal and his last Mediterranean Naval base. At at the small cost of undermining OPCW and the UN.

Good old Putin.

 

[rick773]

Thank fuck for Putin

"We agree"-gays, political prisoners ,Chechens , dead opposition ,etc etc etc.

 

[Ducado]

Thank fuck for Putin

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I would hardly think that one who is so fond of civil liberties would be thanking Mr Putin, were you thanking him when he was tuning parts of Chechenar into rubble, or thanking him for his recent anti gay legislation

 

[Balti]

Thank fuck for Putin

Yes, the old chap has managed to protect his $5 billion arms deal and his last Mediterranean Naval base. At at the small cost of undermining OPCW and the UN.

Good old Putin.

Have both these respected organisations advocated that we unilaterally bomb the, errr alleged , bastards?!?!?!

 

[Skashion]

Comedy, the UN is undermined by no action on Syria... The UN is undermined by the fact that it relies upon the whims of those who pay the bills and provide the troops, the lack of consistency in effecting humanitarian interventions i.e. ignoring massive death totals as long as they aren't in strategically important places (see former point), and in fact, a piss-poor human rights record full-stop. UN sanctions on Iraq led to 500,000 deaths in Iraq and which prompted Halliday to resign saying "I don't want to administer a programme that satisfies the definition of genocide". The UN is and always has been a farce. In theory, it's a good idea. In practice it has caused at least as much misery as it has prevented, probably more. Even so, Ban Ki-moon is against military intervention so I don't know how it can be claimed that it's undermining the UN to be against military action.

 

[ElanJo]

I'm completely for removing and prosecuting any government that uses chemical weapons.

The issue is how it should be done and who should do it.

All those responsible for the use of chemical warfare should face justice. The world is fucked up enough with letting invasions etc. slide, chemical warfare is not something we can afford to let become the norm.

I'd agree with Obama and praise his moral superiority (well, to a point) if he pursued his predecessors and allies with as much gusto as he has shown concerning Assad.

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Havn't we gone in yet,nuke the bastards,come on barrack sort it out.

 

[Skashion]

I'm completely for removing and prosecuting any government that uses chemical weapons.

The issue is how it should be done and who should do it.

All those responsible for the use of chemical warfare should face justice. The world is fucked up enough with letting invasions etc. slide, chemical warfare is not something we can afford to let become the norm.

I'd agree with Obama and praise his moral superiority (well, to a point) if he pursued his predecessors and allies with as much gusto as he has shown concerning Assad.

Is proof not an issue for you then?

 

[bluemoon32]

After Syria can we bomb the shit out of that cnut Mugabe ?

 

[Chevelle]

Fuck Putin

Corrected.

 

[Skashion]

After Syria can we bomb the shit out of that cnut Mugabe ?

How the fuck does North Korea get away with having nuclear weapons. Why haven't we invaded them yet? After all we've talked about going into Iran for the thoughtcrime of thinking they might get nuclear weapons.

 

[ElanJo]

I'm completely for removing and prosecuting any government that uses chemical weapons.

The issue is how it should be done and who should do it.

All those responsible for the use of chemical warfare should face justice. The world is fucked up enough with letting invasions etc. slide, chemical warfare is not something we can afford to let become the norm.

I'd agree with Obama and praise his moral superiority (well, to a point) if he pursued his predecessors and allies with as much gusto as he has shown concerning Assad.

Is proof not an issue for you then?

I didn't say Assad was guilty.

If there is good evidence, like in the case of the US in Vietnam, then, no matter who it is, those responsible should face the same fate as any suspected criminal.

 

[Skashion]

I didn't say Assad was guilty.

If there is good evidence, like in the case of the US in Vietnam, then, no matter who it is, those responsible should face the same fate as any suspected criminal.

So what course of action do you support?

Why are chemicals a red line to you, or do you think all those guilty of crimes against humanity i.e. killing of civilians should face international law? Was humanitarian intervention on Syria justified before the use of chemical weapons?