Tactics for next year and the sacrifice of David Silva

[franksinatra]

One of the main reasons we have fallen behind in the race for the championship is our inability to score resulting in defeats to the like of Everton, Sunderland and draws at places like QPR, West Ham, and Chelsea.

Consistently these teams have defended deep, with the lack of width in the side resulting in continual failed attempts to play through the middle of these sides particularly away from home rather than the wide open spaces of Eastland’s.

By playing Silva and two strikers we seem straight jacketed in the way we play as he will never be the type of player to hog the touchline, continually moving inside resulting in even less spaces in central areas and even less width in the side.

Arsenal and Chelsea generally operate with one striker a player of David Silva's ilk in the space behind and the width operated by the Hazards and Walcott’s of this world. My concern is if we employed this formation Silva would not contribute the goals of a Mata or Cazorla and so the problem of failing to score would be exacerbated.

Therefore my question would be should we gamble in the transfer window on losing a fantastic player like David Silva next year, whose form has admittedly dipped over the past year and recoup a decent fee enabling us to buy one or two top class player and play two wingers to provide the width, operate one striker with David Silva in the space behind or purchase one winger and lose a Nasri or Milner?

The context of the thread is not to criticise David Silva but to debate the way we play as it seems consistently we struggle to score away from home and the tactics and personnel seem a large part of this.

 

[JamesA]

One of the main reasons we have fallen behind in the race for the championship is our inability to score resulting in defeats to the like of Everton, Sunderland and draws at places like QPR, West Ham, and Chelsea.

Consistently these teams have defended deep, with the lack of width in the side resulting in continual failed attempts to play through the middle of these sides particularly away from home rather than the wide open spaces of Eastland’s.

By playing Silva and two strikers we seem straight jacketed in the way we play as he will never be the type of player to hog the touchline, continually moving inside resulting in even less spaces in central areas and even less width in the side.

Arsenal and Chelsea generally operate with one striker a player of David Silva's ilk in the space behind and the width operated by the Hazards and Walcott’s of this world. My concern is if we employed this formation Silva would not contribute the goals of a Mata or Cazorla and so the problem of failing to score would be exacerbated.

Therefore my question would be should we gamble in the transfer window on losing a fantastic player like David Silva next year, whose form has admittedly dipped over the past year and recoup a decent fee enabling us to buy one or two top class player and play two wingers to provide the width, operate one striker with David Silva in the space behind or purchase one winger and lose a Nasri or Milner?

The context of the thread is not to criticise David Silva but to debate the way we play as it seems consistently we struggle to score away from home and the tactics and personnel seem a large part of this.

I agree what you're saying formation-wise, i think we should play one striker, Silva in behind and 1-2 wide midfielders a la Hazard/Walcott.

I certainly don't think we should be sacrificing Silva though, no way!

 

[franksinatra]

One of the main reasons we have fallen behind in the race for the championship is our inability to score resulting in defeats to the like of Everton, Sunderland and draws at places like QPR, West Ham, and Chelsea.

Consistently these teams have defended deep, with the lack of width in the side resulting in continual failed attempts to play through the middle of these sides particularly away from home rather than the wide open spaces of Eastland’s.

By playing Silva and two strikers we seem straight jacketed in the way we play as he will never be the type of player to hog the touchline, continually moving inside resulting in even less spaces in central areas and even less width in the side.

Arsenal and Chelsea generally operate with one striker a player of David Silva's ilk in the space behind and the width operated by the Hazards and Walcott’s of this world. My concern is if we employed this formation Silva would not contribute the goals of a Mata or Cazorla and so the problem of failing to score would be exacerbated.

Therefore my question would be should we gamble in the transfer window on losing a fantastic player like David Silva next year, whose form has admittedly dipped over the past year and recoup a decent fee enabling us to buy one or two top class player and play two wingers to provide the width, operate one striker with David Silva in the space behind or purchase one winger and lose a Nasri or Milner?

The context of the thread is not to criticise David Silva but to debate the way we play as it seems consistently we struggle to score away from home and the tactics and personnel seem a large part of this.

I agree what you're saying formation-wise, i think we should play one striker, Silva in behind and 1-2 wide midfielders a la Hazard/Walcott.

I certainly don't think we should be sacrificing Silva though, no way!

I know what you are saying but considering we will get a decent return of money for him enabling us to reinvest and his form of late I wonder if my relectance to get rid of him is based on my memories upto January 2012. FFP will affect our dealing from now on and I cannot see much of a return for Nasri (PSG aside) or Milner to purchase new wingers.

 

[Damanino]

Fast wide players and Mancini staying?

Choose one or the other...

 

[inbetween]

Might as well sack Mancini as well, get Joe Royle in and go back to being shite, there is a recurring theme with teams that play the 'winger' mentality.

Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG, Juventus, Napoli, Malaga, Athletico, Milan all manage without wingers.

 

[gh_mcfc]

One of the main reasons we have fallen behind in the race for the championship is our inability to score resulting in defeats to the like of Everton, Sunderland and draws at places like QPR, West Ham, and Chelsea.

Consistently these teams have defended deep, with the lack of width in the side resulting in continual failed attempts to play through the middle of these sides particularly away from home rather than the wide open spaces of Eastland’s.

By playing Silva and two strikers we seem straight jacketed in the way we play as he will never be the type of player to hog the touchline, continually moving inside resulting in even less spaces in central areas and even less width in the side.

Arsenal and Chelsea generally operate with one striker a player of David Silva's ilk in the space behind and the width operated by the Hazards and Walcott’s of this world. My concern is if we employed this formation Silva would not contribute the goals of a Mata or Cazorla and so the problem of failing to score would be exacerbated.

Therefore my question would be should we gamble in the transfer window on losing a fantastic player like David Silva next year, whose form has admittedly dipped over the past year and recoup a decent fee enabling us to buy one or two top class player and play two wingers to provide the width, operate one striker with David Silva in the space behind or purchase one winger and lose a Nasri or Milner?

The context of the thread is not to criticise David Silva but to debate the way we play as it seems consistently we struggle to score away from home and the tactics and personnel seem a large part of this.

I agree what you're saying formation-wise, i think we should play one striker, Silva in behind and 1-2 wide midfielders a la Hazard/Walcott.

I certainly don't think we should be sacrificing Silva though, no way!

This One strikerwith silva or yaya in behind. Should be like that rest of season

 

[JamesA]

Might as well sack Mancini as well, get Joe Royle in and go back to being shite, there is a recurring theme with teams that play the 'winger' mentality.

Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG, Juventus, Napoli, Malaga, Athletico, Milan all manage without wingers.

Incorrect and totally missed the point, or more likely not even read the original post. The point with all those teams and with modern tactics in general, is that teams don't play 4-4-2 with wingers that often anymore, they play a 4-3-3/4-5-1 with fast technical players who can play wide or inside. There is more fluidity to the formation.

Chelsea - erm, what about Hazard/Oscar?
Real madrid - Erm, Ronaldo, Di Maria
Napoli - Insigne/Pandev
PSG - Lavezzi/Pastore

Seriously, you need to read before you post.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Might as well sack Mancini as well, get Joe Royle in and go back to being shite, there is a recurring theme with teams that play the 'winger' mentality.

Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG, Juventus, Napoli, Malaga, Athletico, Milan all manage without wingers.

That is an amazing post.

Barcelona a team with Alexis & Pedro, Madrid with Ronaldo & Di Maria, Chelsea with Hazard & Moses, PSG with Lavezzi & Lucas all apparently play without wingers.

 

[franksinatra]

One of the main reasons we have fallen behind in the race for the championship is our inability to score resulting in defeats to the like of Everton, Sunderland and draws at places like QPR, West Ham, and Chelsea.

Consistently these teams have defended deep, with the lack of width in the side resulting in continual failed attempts to play through the middle of these sides particularly away from home rather than the wide open spaces of Eastland’s.

By playing Silva and two strikers we seem straight jacketed in the way we play as he will never be the type of player to hog the touchline, continually moving inside resulting in even less spaces in central areas and even less width in the side.

Arsenal and Chelsea generally operate with one striker a player of David Silva's ilk in the space behind and the width operated by the Hazards and Walcott’s of this world. My concern is if we employed this formation Silva would not contribute the goals of a Mata or Cazorla and so the problem of failing to score would be exacerbated.

Therefore my question would be should we gamble in the transfer window on losing a fantastic player like David Silva next year, whose form has admittedly dipped over the past year and recoup a decent fee enabling us to buy one or two top class player and play two wingers to provide the width, operate one striker with David Silva in the space behind or purchase one winger and lose a Nasri or Milner?

The context of the thread is not to criticise David Silva but to debate the way we play as it seems consistently we struggle to score away from home and the tactics and personnel seem a large part of this.

I agree what you're saying formation-wise, i think we should play one striker, Silva in behind and 1-2 wide midfielders a la Hazard/Walcott.

I certainly don't think we should be sacrificing Silva though, no way!

This One strikerwith silva or yaya in behind. Should be like that rest of season

Do you think this side will got the goals though?. The year we won the cup we played this way with Mancini identifying we needed more goals in the side, hence the signing of Aguero and a huge leap in the number of points and goals resulting in last seasons championship.

 

[GXCity]

It's not wingers we need, we need pace. The number of times a counter attack is there for the taking and we fuck it up is unbelievable.