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My 2 cents on this is not that there is a conspiracy, merely a bunch of bitter, failed, has-been ex-footballers who are jealous - really jealous - of where City find ourselves. And snide comment and backhanded insult sits more comfortably with many of them than does praise or positive recognition.

I say fuck 'em.
 
Pigeonho said:
chesterguy said:
Pigeonho said:
As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?
Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

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A PL title, an FA Cup, a Charity Shield, 1 great manager and the ability to attract another, as well as brilliant players from far and wide - I would say the club is in an excellent position, and that's not even including the recent sponsors who have come on-board. If there is some great conspiracy out there, it's not really doing it's job, is it?

I have never said there is a "conspiracy" nor for the record am I "paranoid" What I have stated is that the media constantly reinforce a negative stereotypical image of "moneybags" City

How many times have we read about Liverpool doing things "the Liverpool way" implying the right way how many times have we heard about United and there wonderful "youth system"

Now I realise that does not affect us as fans and of course it will not affect professionals within football such as players managers and corporate sponsors but the media is not trying to influence those people it is trying to influence the masses and this does affect City. The reason is that if we had a much more positive image of City portrayed about City in the media it would help to accelerate the worldwide appeal of City to fans

Now I know many "die-hard loyal true blue I was at York away" City fans may not like it but the club is trying to grow its fan-base worldwide and the negative perceptions reinforced and propagated within the media will not help that growth. I am not saying we wont get there because we will it just could be made quicker and easier

What one presenter, pundit or journalist writes in itself will not harm City its the drip drip constant stereotyping of the club that is not helping City. If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners
Ha, yet just a few threads down people are moaning about the influx of such global fans.
All I would say if it is going on is, do we want fans who are swayed by such nonsense? I would say no. For every person who would read or listen to such bollocks and turn away, there will be plenty more who decide to follow us for whatever reason they choose.

So from your comments you agree that there is bollocks and nonsense being said
by the media . The reason why its important is financial. Fans like supporting successful clubs clearly but they also like to think there club does things the right way.

I would suggest City is not perceived in a good light by many neutral or new fans. But I am sure the club would like to attract those fans why because of financial reasons they will buy shirts etc and sponsors will pay more money if we are regarded as having a bigger fan base. If we sold more shirts in Asia etc we would get a bigger sponsorship deal with our next shirt sponsor and supplier so that is why it is important

Of course some fans will chose to support City anyway thats why I said our growth will happen its just the rate could be even faster if we could lessen the negative stereotype
 
If someone says City have no history I reply with: You mean we weren't winning when you were six years old so you didn't chose us as your team?
 
chesterguy said:
Pigeonho said:
chesterguy said:
I have never said there is a "conspiracy" nor for the record am I "paranoid" What I have stated is that the media constantly reinforce a negative stereotypical image of "moneybags" City

How many times have we read about Liverpool doing things "the Liverpool way" implying the right way how many times have we heard about United and there wonderful "youth system"

Now I realise that does not affect us as fans and of course it will not affect professionals within football such as players managers and corporate sponsors but the media is not trying to influence those people it is trying to influence the masses and this does affect City. The reason is that if we had a much more positive image of City portrayed about City in the media it would help to accelerate the worldwide appeal of City to fans

Now I know many "die-hard loyal true blue I was at York away" City fans may not like it but the club is trying to grow its fan-base worldwide and the negative perceptions reinforced and propagated within the media will not help that growth. I am not saying we wont get there because we will it just could be made quicker and easier

What one presenter, pundit or journalist writes in itself will not harm City its the drip drip constant stereotyping of the club that is not helping City. If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners
Ha, yet just a few threads down people are moaning about the influx of such global fans.
All I would say if it is going on is, do we want fans who are swayed by such nonsense? I would say no. For every person who would read or listen to such bollocks and turn away, there will be plenty more who decide to follow us for whatever reason they choose.

So from your comments you agree that there is bollocks and nonsense being said
by the media . The reason why its important is financial. Fans like supporting successful clubs clearly but they also like to think there club does things the right way.

I would suggest City is not perceived in a good light by many neutral or new fans. But I am sure the club would like to attract those fans why because of financial reasons they will buy shirts etc and sponsors will pay more money if we are regarded as having a bigger fan base. If we sold more shirts in Asia etc we would get a bigger sponsorship deal with our next shirt sponsor and supplier so that is why it is important

Of course some fans will chose to support City anyway thats why I said our growth will happen its just the rate could be even faster if we could lessen the negative stereotype
I don't think there is bollocks and nonsense being said in the frequency people say it is on here, but I do think that there are bitters who will make snide comments, but don't we all do that in all walks of life anyway? Mills is one. He is bitter but at the end of the day, is Mills talking the odd bit of bollocks going to sway the Cheung family from China from supporting the club? I would say not.

On what other fans think, well only the weak-minded would allow themselves to be swayed by such comments and form a genuine, negative opinion of what's been said. If you read an article that Southampton's new signing, Pablo Osvaldo eats live chickens for his breakfast at 3am, would you instantly form a negative opinion of him and then Southampton for signing such a loony? Or would you look into it a bit more to see if the story is bollocks? Or would you just not care either way?
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Pigeonho said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Ray parlour is just a fucking ****...sorry but let him hate all he wants..
He tipped us for the title.
And I bet that hurt him to..Still a greasy chav tarquin...how much is he paying his ex wife per week..ouch...
I wouldn't have thought so as it's not at the expense of his club as they have no chance. Parlour comes across as a regular fan, if not a bit dim, (though that's just his accent I would imagine).
 
Esoterik said:
If someone says City have no history I reply with: You mean we weren't winning when you were six years old so you didn't chose us as your team?
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