Talksport

Assuming that talksport is a talk radio show, did the dude defend his position or did the racist wankers over there just refuse to call in to be called out on their views.
I agreed with the guy as soon as he said he disagreed with Brazil and Piers Morgan, both idiots, in my opinion.
 
It’s great that by Durham, but the same with the over sensitivity with what car Sterling drives, are we not going too far by not being able to call players lazy? Yaya looked lazy at times, and you can look at Lukaku and Pogba especially and think ‘lazy twat’. That isn’t racist! I don’t think of a negative to use against those players specifically just because they’re black. It’s because they look lazy and nothing more. We not going a bit too far??
 
Durham right on and noticed that folks pick black players to call that out in examples given. Could Harry Kane make lazy list - no cannot call him that even when he walks around on the field because he has a reason, he is tired.
 
Pigeonho said:
It’s great that by Durham, but the same with the over sensitivity with what car Sterling drives, are we not going too far by not being able to call players lazy? Yaya looked lazy at times, and you can look at Lukaku and Pogba especially and think ‘lazy twat’. That isn’t racist! I don’t think of a negative to use against those players specifically just because they’re black. It’s because they look lazy and nothing more. We not going a bit too far??
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I find myself agreeing with Pigeonho here ! bloody crikey eh !
 
Pigeonho said:
It’s great that by Durham, but the same with the over sensitivity with what car Sterling drives, are we not going too far by not being able to call players lazy? Yaya looked lazy at times, and you can look at Lukaku and Pogba especially and think ‘lazy twat’. That isn’t racist! I don’t think of a negative to use against those players specifically just because they’re black. It’s because they look lazy and nothing more. We not going a bit too far??
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I think Ron Atkinson’s quote plays a part here.
"He's what is known in some schools as a fucking lazy thick n*****."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/apr/22/football.raceintheuk
 
Late night show bloke is shitting boiled Bollock calling in sick as it's their Christmas party. If he goes sick he's doing his show.
 
Pigeonho said:
It’s great that by Durham, but the same with the over sensitivity with what car Sterling drives, are we not going too far by not being able to call players lazy? Yaya looked lazy at times, and you can look at Lukaku and Pogba especially and think ‘lazy twat’. That isn’t racist! I don’t think of a negative to use against those players specifically just because they’re black. It’s because they look lazy and nothing more. We not going a bit too far??
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And I believe that for you (and I) this is ok - as (/as long as, and I believe that we are,) we're doing it from a place of, for want of a better term, non-prejudicial neutrality - i.e. we interpret and label any player behaving in the same way as lazy too.

This in itself is tricky, as we each have our own individual ways of viewing the world which are composed of our made up stories - which by their nature are highly subjective as they are dependent on our individual views of the world which have been shaped and influenced by our individual experiences and surroundings.

I think what Durham is advocating is perhaps a degree of reflection - a pause to consider whether or not we are being 'fair' in the way we describe one person over another, or whether we are perhaps being unduly influenced in our judgement by irrelevant factors and pre-existing beliefs. To a degree, this unfairness could be seen as similar to the way we view our 'Agenda'. Unwarranted in a balanced and fair world, but excruciatingly frustrating for any who feel they are subject to it.

And therein lies the rub. Some people are so self-unaware that they simply do not see, consider or believe that they are being unfair in the way they differentiate between players. Some haven't even realised that there are different points of view outside the bubble of their own existence.
Some do, and continue to pursue their agenda regardless. And when in groups or communities, it is all too easy for many otherwise objective people to be carried along by social norms, with a lax hand on objective thinking especially arising in times of high emotional stimulation.

I do think for the most part, people are capable of being self-aware enough to make such considerations (i.e. "am I really being objective here?") - when they are in emotionally balanced states. But this must come from awareness - education, normalisation, etc.
With awareness and social promotion comes practice (utilising the same community effect to support and encourage desired behaviour/thinking) - which then becomes a more frequent state of being. And while we will continue to be influenced by irrelevant factors, if we can recognise when it is about to happen, we stand a chance of reducing the frequency or degree to which it drives our subsequent actions.

There you go, my relatively unstructured ramblings at 5.45 in a morning. Not necessarily fact, just my opinion.
Hope they are useful food for thought.
 
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