Teacher Training

[denislawsbackheel]

I think where my missus is they are involved all the way through alongside the other agencies. She's the safeguarding lead and the go to person for other schools as well as the council/ police so that might explain her bigger involvement.

Twice last year that I can remember she was working into the night alongside the other agencies as a child had said a parent had beat up the other parent. In the past that would have been ignored but now it's the child's welfare, even out of school.

Yes, I didn’t mean to say there was no further school involvement. Once social services took over there were no end of meetings and reports to made out by all parties involved. One of the last ones I was involved with the head and I wanted it recorded that we agreed with police in not wanting the child returned to the parental home because of risk. We were over-ruled by social services who seemed to be a law unto themselves.

 

[Kompany Car]

I know its a bit off topic and I'm going to don my tin hat but maybe teachers should just be paid like any other professional, with the same holidays, benefits and pension as employees in the private sector. It would certainly stop all of the finger pointing.

Pay would significantly increase by around 35% this is based on the ONS median teachers salary of £39500 and boost the median salary to around £53000 which aligns with the median salary of similar professionals (engineers, accountants, project managers etc). However there would be no final salary pension only a defined contribution invested in the stock marked or bonds and say matched up to 7%. Holidays would be 25 days plus stats based on a 40hrs per week contract.

Interest to know if teachers would prefer that.

 

[BimboBob]

I know its a bit off topic and I'm going to don my tin hat but maybe teachers should just be paid like any other professional, with the same holidays, benefits and pension as employees in the private sector. It would certainly stop all of the finger pointing.

Pay would significantly increase by around 35% this is based on the ONS median teachers salary of £39500 and boost the median salary to around £53000 which aligns with the median salary of similar professionals (engineers, accountants, project managers etc). However there would be no final salary pension only a defined contribution invested in the stock marked or bonds and say matched up to 7%. Holidays would be 25 days plus stats.

Interest to know if teachers would prefer that.

No unpaid working at home in the evening then? Or is that an overtime payment?

 

[Kompany Car]

No unpaid working at home in the evening then? Or is that an overtime payment?

Not many professional jobs pay overtime these days. Part of being a professional and earning a "good" salary along with maintaining your professional competencies for Chartership to relevant institutions

 

[BimboBob]

Not many professional jobs pay overtime these days. Part of being a professional along with maintaining your professional competencies.

So more money, less holidays, although 5 weeks is officially a teachers holiday, the rest being 'working'.

Accountants do accountancy. They are not social workers, nurses, therapists, mediators, business managers, takers of parent and child abuse and educators. Teachers are all of these things and more.



Oh...and now structural engineers.


Every teacher I've ever met who has stuck at the job is dedicated to it. You'd have to be, especially with the horror stories I hear day in day out when she finally gets home. In at 7.30...home at 6 ish. Working whilst eating after.

Not sure the other professionals are in the same league.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I know its a bit off topic and I'm going to don my tin hat but maybe teachers should just be paid like any other professional, with the same holidays, benefits and pension as employees in the private sector. It would certainly stop all of the finger pointing.

Pay would significantly increase by around 35% this is based on the ONS median teachers salary of £39500 and boost the median salary to around £53000 which aligns with the median salary of similar professionals (engineers, accountants, project managers etc). However there would be no final salary pension only a defined contribution invested in the stock marked or bonds and say matched up to 7%. Holidays would be 25 days plus stats based on a 40hrs per week contract.

Interest to know if teachers would prefer that.

Teachers' work contracts are based around the needs of the kids, not the need to please ill-informed whingers who will moan about anyone who they perceive to be in a better situation than themselves. Schools are only teaching for 39 weeks because kids can only learn for 39 weeks. Now you could make them formally come in during holiday to prep the next term, but that would very much be the same as what happens unofficially now, with a 35% pay rise for all teachers. I imagine a lot would go for that. But it still wouldn't solve the problems of parents who just want schools to be open to look after their kids for free.

 

[Kompany Car]

So more money, less holidays, although 5 weeks is officially a teachers holiday, the rest being 'working'.

Accountants do accountancy. They are not social workers, nurses, therapists, mediators, business managers, takers of parent and child abuse and educators. Teachers are all of these things and more.



Oh...and now structural engineers.


Every teacher I've ever met who has stuck at the job is dedicated to it. You'd have to be, especially with the horror stories I hear day in day out when she finally gets home. In at 7.30...home at 6 ish. Working whilst eating after.

Not sure the other professionals are in the same league.

I take it that's a no then Bimbo. The issues that you list are fundamentally due to the fucked up society we have in this country and teachers (wrongly I may add) are by no means unique in having to deal with them on a daily basis.

 

[BimboBob]

I take it that's a no then Bimbo. The issues that you list are fundamentally due to the fucked up society we have in this country and teachers (wrongly I may add) are by no means unique in having to deal with them on a daily basis.

I would add nurses into that as well. Horrendously underpaid for what they do.

 

[Odd socks]

Daughter works as a teaching assistant (disable children mostly) with agency and it suits her situation, great start to the term with Wed/Thur/Fri work.
Phone call last night to say to say she's not required as funding has been withdrawn.
Can't help thinking this concrete issue is going to effect kids education.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Daughter works as a teaching assistant (disable children mostly) with agency and it suits her situation, great start to the term with Wed/Thur/Fri work.
Phone call last night to say to say she's not required as funding has been withdrawn.
Can't help thinking this concrete issue is going to effect kids education.

Yep, but no doubt the staff will have to go through their EDI training at the same time that funding is cut for any actual EDI provisions. They pretend to care about inclusivity, but it's always the first thing to get cut when budgets are tight.