The perfect fumble
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BluePurgatory said:The best we have had since Churchill and its been downhill ever since. RIP Mrs Thatcher!
You must have a real hard on for Nigel Farage then.
BluePurgatory said:The best we have had since Churchill and its been downhill ever since. RIP Mrs Thatcher!
tolmie's hairdoo said:Vinjay said:karen7 said:good she was a woman,state funeral is a laugh,should only be for royalty or serving prime minister.The masses will be pissed off that in the days they are taking money off disabled kids they will be spending money on a state funeral
Suggest she did a lot more for this country than the Windsors ever will
Bollocks.
Thatcher only thought she was the Queen, but the real one still reigns happy and glorious.
And long may she.
"We are a grandmother". Silly cow saying that.Remember it? I bet the Queen was fucking furious.
-- Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:36 pm --
Seosa said:
<a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg</a>
She certainly got that right
supermankrypton said:Burn in hell, you rotten, evil woman.
supermankrypton said:Burn in hell, you rotten, evil woman.
The perfect fumble said:Ancient Citizen said:Prestwich_Blue said:Most glorifying her death on here probably only heard about her time as PM second hand but when she came to power, inflation was high, we were in hock to the IMF, the unions were all-powerful and forced through wage settlements completely out of line with what their industries could afford and many of those industries were owned by the state and required huge volumes of money pumping in regularly.
She curbed the pwoer of the unions, brought inflation down and got government finances under control, withdrew support from failing uncompetitive industries and reduced the ludicrous levels of taxation we had, where you could be paying 98% tax on some income. She also allowed people to buy the council houses they'd rented for years at knock-down prices.
The downside of all that was that most of our major manufacturing industries went out of business or were sold off to foreign companies, unemployment mushroomed, many communities around those industries were devastated and we shifted from a manufacturing to a service economy.
Much of what she did set the scene for the next 35 years, some of which was right and sme of which was wrong. We may be in a mess now but without her we's have probably been in a much worse mess.
She single-handedly moved politics well to the right, from the point where she was considered far too right wing by the Tory party before she came to power to the point where her natural heir was Tony Blair and New Labour.
Agreed. The hysterical, 'She shut down all the industries' nonsense seems to come from folk who weren't around at the time. Steel, British Leyland, coal, were all recipients of massive subsidies and were subject to wildcat strikes and disruptions by all powerful unions, that were driving us to ruin. The subsidies were removed, the unions faced down and although it impacted massively in Northern communities, the country gradually recovered.
In the mid seventies, under Callaghan inflation reached 27% and we had to go cap in hand to the IMF for a bailout. Yes, she was a woman and not someone I'd like to have a drink with, but her single minded determination to destroy union power pulled us back from the brink.
A right wing fairy tale.
The perfect fumble said:Ancient Citizen said:Prestwich_Blue said:Most glorifying her death on here probably only heard about her time as PM second hand but when she came to power, inflation was high, we were in hock to the IMF, the unions were all-powerful and forced through wage settlements completely out of line with what their industries could afford and many of those industries were owned by the state and required huge volumes of money pumping in regularly.
She curbed the pwoer of the unions, brought inflation down and got government finances under control, withdrew support from failing uncompetitive industries and reduced the ludicrous levels of taxation we had, where you could be paying 98% tax on some income. She also allowed people to buy the council houses they'd rented for years at knock-down prices.
The downside of all that was that most of our major manufacturing industries went out of business or were sold off to foreign companies, unemployment mushroomed, many communities around those industries were devastated and we shifted from a manufacturing to a service economy.
Much of what she did set the scene for the next 35 years, some of which was right and sme of which was wrong. We may be in a mess now but without her we's have probably been in a much worse mess.
She single-handedly moved politics well to the right, from the point where she was considered far too right wing by the Tory party before she came to power to the point where her natural heir was Tony Blair and New Labour.
Agreed. The hysterical, 'She shut down all the industries' nonsense seems to come from folk who weren't around at the time. Steel, British Leyland, coal, were all recipients of massive subsidies and were subject to wildcat strikes and disruptions by all powerful unions, that were driving us to ruin. The subsidies were removed, the unions faced down and although it impacted massively in Northern communities, the country gradually recovered.
In the mid seventies, under Callaghan inflation reached 27% and we had to go cap in hand to the IMF for a bailout. Yes, she was a woman and not someone I'd like to have a drink with, but her single minded determination to destroy union power pulled us back from the brink.
A right wing fairy tale.
It's not that I feel any particular need to justify my hatred of a good mate of Pinochet's and Savile's but can you tell me why thirty years of stagnant social mobility is a good thing? Can you tell me why having the lowest social mobility in the western world along with the United States and Portugal is a good thing? If Thatcher was great at promoting industriousness, entrepreneurs and enterprise, why have stood still in providing better opportunities regardless of wealth in three fucking decades? Why is our economy so unbalanced that we focussed solely on financial and services sector to the detriment of the industry she destroyed? Why is it a good thing that we have created paper wealth through rapid house price inflation - because of housing stock shortages, that the next generation i.e. me and you, are going to pay for? Or are you hoping we continue this mad Ponzi scheme for the next generation?Seosa said:
smudgedj said:foxy said:Funny how it only appears to be well to do and middle classed people who are expressing their condolences.
I'm sure that when her supporters get in from work they will offer their condolences.
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