FogBlueInSanFran
Well-Known Member
I better get this in before the ban goes into effect for my Power Station post . . .Foggy, I’m definitely not trying to piss on your chips and I will listen to it and try to digest the lyrics more, as I do love a good turn of phrase. An image conveyed in one or two lines that a thousand words could do justice to, is right up my alley.
But that partly was the problem. I know it’s post punk but I thought the production on it was poor. I had to fiddle around on the playback option with the graphic equaliser to find acceptable levels of acoustic and bass and treble, so I could make out the singing and get any appreciation of the instruments. Maybe that’s down to my speaker but other stuff sounds fine.
I also get what you’re saying regarding American white arena rock etc in this era. I just couldn’t have anything to do with any of that genre at the time and haven’t mellowed to it nostalgically either.
For all the slagging I give Morrissey in here I was delighted with the likes of the Smiths and other such British bands changing the influence in music on this side of the Atlantic. I was getting into the likes of Talking Heads from your side of the water.
However, musically I heard everything from Lou Reed/Velvet Underground to Stiff Little Fingers to the New York Dolls and others in here, all done before and sounding better. That’s what I was getting at regarding innovation.
Now that is where I am being totally subjective while trying to sound objective, I suppose.
Anyway, I love a good lyric and will give it a proper second listen, but initially don’t get any comparison with Quadrophenia either, which I love.
I don’t think you’re pissing in them at all, and you make great points about the Velvets and SLF, definitely the former and probably the latter who The Mats were in-part channeling along with good old fashioned rock like Kiss and, say, I don’t know, Sabbath. There’s REM in here too (Peter Buck played on “I Will Dare”) and a lot of twang (Conway Twitty?). I think it’s the blend that’s the innovation — it’s definitely not a narrow record IMO. The comparison with Quadrophenia is thematic — the challenges of disaffected youth — but Q is more rooted in a time and place while LIB’s theme is more universal.
Q is, by the way, one of only six records (I’m considering adding another soon so it might be seven) that I think are perfect.
I love these discussions so please feel free to let loose. Plenty of people dislike or think this record is overrated. If I make one convert to its appeal I’m happy, and if I make none, that doesn’t change how I feel about it.
That’s the beauty of these threads and why I’m thankful to @RobMCFC and @BlueHammer85 — to me there is nothing but upside to every interaction. :)