BimboBob
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As you said yourself, they developed from it.
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Saddleworth2
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They did mate. I thought long and hard about putting this album of theirs forward. It means a lot to me for a whole bunch of reasons which will never be replicated in anyone else. I'm not trying to say it was the best 10cc album but it is my favourite. :-)As you said yourself, they developed from it.
mancity2012_eamo
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I know.Wash your mouth out, agreeing with me!
There’s a first for everything.
Saddleworth2
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Btw I wasn't entirely serious saying you should like the album more. I forgot the ;-)I know.
There’s a first for everything.
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5 excellent albums in the early-to-mid 70's.
This was probably 4th best of the 5.
This was probably 4th best of the 5.
Some great and not so great tracks.
Terrible start in Johnny Don't Do It and Sand in my Face.Although I liked the guitar in Johnny Don't Do It.
Donna and The Dean and I pick it up.Although the high falsetto voice and the Hum drum days start I found annoying.
Headline Hunter and Speed Kills just album fillers.
Rubber Bullets a classic from my youth.
The Hospital song- nothing special bar the guitar playing.
Ship's Don't Disappear okay and last Fresh Air For Mama a decent finish.
A lot of promise for an first album but nothing special.
I will investigate further albums but got a feeling a best of playist from Spotify will do me. 5/10.
Terrible start in Johnny Don't Do It and Sand in my Face.Although I liked the guitar in Johnny Don't Do It.
Donna and The Dean and I pick it up.Although the high falsetto voice and the Hum drum days start I found annoying.
Headline Hunter and Speed Kills just album fillers.
Rubber Bullets a classic from my youth.
The Hospital song- nothing special bar the guitar playing.
Ship's Don't Disappear okay and last Fresh Air For Mama a decent finish.
A lot of promise for an first album but nothing special.
I will investigate further albums but got a feeling a best of playist from Spotify will do me. 5/10.
OB1
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How are these from Stockport and not California ?!
They certainly remind me more of Steely Dan than the Beatles but aren't as good as either, which doesn't mean 10cc aren't a very good band.
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10cc
Where do I start, not only I’m agreeing with much of what Bimbobob and hence Mancity2012_eamo have written but also Mr Positive Bennyboy!
As I mentioned previously this was very much part of my early teenage years.
I remember a mate going out with a girl called ‘Donna’ at the time,I took
an instant dislike to her and we all used to sing the song to him ( most of our balls had’nt dropped so the falsetto was easy)until I couldn’t stand the song either.I met her some years later and she turned out to be a really nice girl so it must’ve been the songs influence back in the day.
I was never a big fan of 10cc , I liked most of their singles but only owned
‘The Original Soundtrack’ which as most of us agree was a better album.
I have to say they we’re all immensely talented, great musicians song writers and producers.
Apart from taking American influences and making them their own, especially Doo Wop on this album,they influenced many future artists with their sound and clever witty lyrics.Deaf School, B52s, The Devine Comedy and a band we’ve reviewed recently FOW, to name but a few.
This album was fun and nostalgic to listen to after all these years,so big thanks to Saddleworth2 .
However I found after a few plays Lol Cremes falsetto start to grate and as others have said there’s a few fillers.
6/10
Bit of trivia, Graham Gouldman used to work in a men’s fashion store ‘Manstyle’ and sit and write songs when the shop was quiet.
Lol Creme was a cousin of the late Richard Creme, whose high end Manchester fashion store ‘L,Homme was frequented by the likes of Bruce Springsteen;Prince and Bowie when they were in town.
Where do I start, not only I’m agreeing with much of what Bimbobob and hence Mancity2012_eamo have written but also Mr Positive Bennyboy!
As I mentioned previously this was very much part of my early teenage years.
I remember a mate going out with a girl called ‘Donna’ at the time,I took
an instant dislike to her and we all used to sing the song to him ( most of our balls had’nt dropped so the falsetto was easy)until I couldn’t stand the song either.I met her some years later and she turned out to be a really nice girl so it must’ve been the songs influence back in the day.
I was never a big fan of 10cc , I liked most of their singles but only owned
‘The Original Soundtrack’ which as most of us agree was a better album.
I have to say they we’re all immensely talented, great musicians song writers and producers.
Apart from taking American influences and making them their own, especially Doo Wop on this album,they influenced many future artists with their sound and clever witty lyrics.Deaf School, B52s, The Devine Comedy and a band we’ve reviewed recently FOW, to name but a few.
This album was fun and nostalgic to listen to after all these years,so big thanks to Saddleworth2 .
However I found after a few plays Lol Cremes falsetto start to grate and as others have said there’s a few fillers.
6/10
Bit of trivia, Graham Gouldman used to work in a men’s fashion store ‘Manstyle’ and sit and write songs when the shop was quiet.
Lol Creme was a cousin of the late Richard Creme, whose high end Manchester fashion store ‘L,Homme was frequented by the likes of Bruce Springsteen;Prince and Bowie when they were in town.
journolud
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What to make of 10cc and this album? I've always liked their singles and as a singles band they are up there with the best. Are they an album band though? Apart from the Original Soundtrack, which definitely makes my top twenty all time albums if not quite the top ten, I've never really listened to their albums, or if I have I may have dismissed them.
Since this nomination I've not only listened to this but am working my way through the rest and they possibly all suffer from the same problem. Are 10cc just a bit too clever for their own good? And did they really know what they wanted to be? When they are not being "clever" and even when they are they have turned out some absolute gems.
@Mancitydoogle mentions Fountains of Wayne who I think I might have said at the time I reviewed them, in relation to the line between pastiche/ tribute/ influence and being taken seriously that you have to like the sort of music being affectionately parodied to get most from the song.
So most noticeably Johnny Don't Do It and Donna in the doo-wop style. Not a genre I'm all that up on or into but Donna is in my memory as one of the first songs I heard regularly on the radio. I loved it hen, I love it now. Whether it's purely due to memory association who knows and who cares. Funnily enough Rubber Bullets I went through a phase of not liking at all. Maybe that was associated with the times I spent in youth penitentiary having joined the riots of the times... only kidding about that and anyway it's wormed it's way back into my affections.
Some of this album I could take or leave to be honest but there are glimpses of what they were working towards. I like Sheet Music better and Original Soundtrack obviously even more. I've skipped How Dare You for now as I vaguely remember having Deceptive Bends and indeed this is a very good album.
I think in the main though 10cc are going to remain a mainly singles band for me with the odd other album track thrown in. It feels a little early to score but we are away for a few days from tomorrow and I won't be writing anything lengthy. I will however have the chance to listen to this and their other albums on headphones while on the train so I'm going to reserve the final score till I've done that.
As an aside, there was a fantastic exhibition of memorabilia from Strawberry Studios in one of the Stockport museums a few years ago, that was quite a story. There was certainly more to these guys than clever pop songs.
Since this nomination I've not only listened to this but am working my way through the rest and they possibly all suffer from the same problem. Are 10cc just a bit too clever for their own good? And did they really know what they wanted to be? When they are not being "clever" and even when they are they have turned out some absolute gems.
@Mancitydoogle mentions Fountains of Wayne who I think I might have said at the time I reviewed them, in relation to the line between pastiche/ tribute/ influence and being taken seriously that you have to like the sort of music being affectionately parodied to get most from the song.
So most noticeably Johnny Don't Do It and Donna in the doo-wop style. Not a genre I'm all that up on or into but Donna is in my memory as one of the first songs I heard regularly on the radio. I loved it hen, I love it now. Whether it's purely due to memory association who knows and who cares. Funnily enough Rubber Bullets I went through a phase of not liking at all. Maybe that was associated with the times I spent in youth penitentiary having joined the riots of the times... only kidding about that and anyway it's wormed it's way back into my affections.
Some of this album I could take or leave to be honest but there are glimpses of what they were working towards. I like Sheet Music better and Original Soundtrack obviously even more. I've skipped How Dare You for now as I vaguely remember having Deceptive Bends and indeed this is a very good album.
I think in the main though 10cc are going to remain a mainly singles band for me with the odd other album track thrown in. It feels a little early to score but we are away for a few days from tomorrow and I won't be writing anything lengthy. I will however have the chance to listen to this and their other albums on headphones while on the train so I'm going to reserve the final score till I've done that.
As an aside, there was a fantastic exhibition of memorabilia from Strawberry Studios in one of the Stockport museums a few years ago, that was quite a story. There was certainly more to these guys than clever pop songs.
Saddleworth2
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Really perceptive review. My better half and I share most musical tastes with a few notable exceptions , 10cc is one. She thinks they are too clever by half! Ask a 10cc fan which album is a favourite and you will get six or seven different answers. They are all good. I chose this because it was their debut and i was at a very impressionable age with a lot of stuff going on.What to make of 10cc and this album? I've always liked their singles and as a singles band they are up there with the best. Are they an album band though? Apart from the Original Soundtrack, which definitely makes my top twenty all time albums if not quite the top ten, I've never really listened to their albums, or if I have I may have dismissed them.
Since this nomination I've not only listened to this but am working my way through the rest and they possibly all suffer from the same problem. Are 10cc just a bit too clever for their own good? And did they really know what they wanted to be? When they are not being "clever" and even when they are they have turned out some absolute gems.
@Mancitydoogle mentions Fountains of Wayne who I think I might have said at the time I reviewed them, in relation to the line between pastiche/ tribute/ influence and being taken seriously that you have to like the sort of music being affectionately parodied to get most from the song.
So most noticeably Johnny Don't Do It and Donna in the doo-wop style. Not a genre I'm all that up on or into but Donna is in my memory as one of the first songs I heard regularly on the radio. I loved it hen, I love it now. Whether it's purely due to memory association who knows and who cares. Funnily enough Rubber Bullets I went through a phase of not liking at all. Maybe that was associated with the times I spent in youth penitentiary having joined the riots of the times... only kidding about that and anyway it's wormed it's way back into my affections.
Some of this album I could take or leave to be honest but there are glimpses of what they were working towards. I like Sheet Music better and Original Soundtrack obviously even more. I've skipped How Dare You for now as I vaguely remember having Deceptive Bends and indeed this is a very good album.
I think in the main though 10cc are going to remain a mainly singles band for me with the odd other album track thrown in. It feels a little early to score but we are away for a few days from tomorrow and I won't be writing anything lengthy. I will however have the chance to listen to this and their other albums on headphones while on the train so I'm going to reserve the final score till I've done that.
As an aside, there was a fantastic exhibition of memorabilia from Strawberry Studios in one of the Stockport museums a few years ago, that was quite a story. There was certainly more to these guys than clever pop songs.