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Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.

Blue Moon Forums - Album Review Club ScoreboardDate21/08/2024
PosNominatorWeek #Page #AlbumArtistYear#VotesAverage
1OB167815NaturallyJ.J.Cale1971148.14
2GoatersLeftShin61678RevolverThe Beatles1966187.83
3Mancitydoogle871038Live DrugsThe War On Drugs202087.75
4Gaudion M76921Cold FactRodriguez1970117.73
5BlueHammer8548492The Queen is DeadThe Smiths1986157.67
6OB1831007Live and DangerousThin Lizzy1978147.61
7threespires881043Talking With The Taxman About PoetryBilly Bragg1986107.60
8BlueHammer851271545Definitely MaybeOasis1994217.55
9BlueHammer85941111TenPearl Jam1991127.51
10BlueMoonRisin'13101611Rattus NorvegicusThe Stranglers1977217.48
11OB1570Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin1975197.47
12Mancitydoogle1001164This is the SeaThe Waterboys1985147,46
13bennyboy51541Car Wheels on a Gravel RoadLucinda Williams1998167.44
14OB1961136Rainbow RisingRainbow1976137.42
15bennyboy1111314Some GirlsThe Rolling Stones1978147.29
16Coatigan981149VThe Budos Band2019117.18
17Mancitydoogle1161381You're Never Alone with a SchizophrenicIan Hunter1979117.18
18Saddleworth21291598HatsThe Blue Nile1989197.15
19GoatersLeftShin891053Live at the Star ClubJerry Lee Lewis1964117.14
20mancity2012_eamo57629Viva Dead PoniesThe Fatima Mansions1990117.09
21southamptonblue44468Beautiful FreakEels1996127.08
22RobMCFC921095American ManThe Yawpers2015127.08
23bennyboy1261531All Mod ConsThe Jam1978167.06
24RobMCFC111The Lonesome JubileeJohn Cougar Mellencamp1987197.05
25FogBlueInSanFran1151369Gun-ShyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs1986147.04
26stoneblue971142Feats Don't Fail Me NowLittle Feat1974127.00
27GornikDaze1091288AbsolutionMuse2003117.00
28Journolud1141362Crossing The Red SeaThe Adverts1978126.96
29FogBlueInSanFran80979SirenRoxy Music1975146.93
30LGWIO1181399Pacific StreetThe Pale Fountains1984146.93
31BimboBob77928The Battle at Garden's GateGreta Van Fleet2021106.90
32bennyboy821001Radio CityBig Star197496.89
33Saddleworth23539210cc10cc1973166.88
34Black&White&BlueMoon Town1071273The Last BroadcastDoves2002136.88
35OB11121329RocksAerosmith1976186.87
36FogBlueInSanFran224Let It BeThe Replacements1984146.86
37threespires74901Strong PersuaderRobert Cray1986136.85
38BimboBob58639The Colour of SpringTalk Talk1986126.83
39BlueHammer85340The MasterplanOasis1998186.81
40Mancitydoogle14200SoutheasternJason Isbell2013106.80
41Bill Walker24310Bare WiresJohn Mayall's Bluesbreakers1968106.80
42threespires1341701DummyPortishead1994176.79
43Saddleworth2454Before The DawnKate Bush2014146.79
44threespires1171389Down to BelievingAllison Moorer2016146.79
45BimboBob1201413The Lexicon of LoveABC1982146.79
46Saddleworth2841016The Wild, The Innocent and the E-Street ShuffleBruce Springsteen1973136.77
47FogBlueInSanFran931102The TubesThe Tubes1975136.77
48Marklr8111FoxtrotGenesis1972206.75
49GoatersLeftShin75914What's Going OnMarvin Gaye1971146.75
50denislawsbackheel55606Flat Baroque and BerserkRoy Harper1970156.73
51GornikDaze911089Have You Lost Your Mind Yet?Fantastic Negrito202096.72
52RobMCFC63775Living With The LawChris Whitley1991146.71
53Onholiday(somemightsay)799Rage Against The MachineRage Against The Machine1992226.68
54GornikDaze1321659Black SabbathBlack Sabbath1970196.68
55OB136402Moving PicturesRush1981236.65
56mancity2012_eamo15207Paradise in the PicturehouseThe Stunning1990116.64
57Saddleworth249513The CrossingBig Country1983156.63
58Black&White&BlueMoon Town1221438A Black Mile To The SurfaceManchester Orchestra2017136.58
59bennyboy40444Lost Songs of the ConfederacyJames King and the Lonewolves2014126.58
60Saddleworth268827Purple RainPrince1984146.57
61RobMCFC1081283Spirit TrailBruce Hornsby199886.56
62mancity2012_eamo27329Irish Tour '74Rory Gallagher1974136.54
63Journolud71875CurtainsTindersticks1997156.53
64RobMCFC16217Earth and Sun and MoonMidnight Oil1993126.50
65EDITOR'S CHOICE1231446OK ComputerRadiohead1997206.44
66KnaresboroughBlue69841Music CompleteNew Order2015146.43
67GoatersLeftShin42455HejiraJoni Mitchell1976156.40
68KnaresboroughBlue688Má VlastBedřich Smetana1874-79156.40
69bennyboy25316FuzzyGrant Lee Buffalo1993156.40
70Bill Walker9138RedKing Crimson1974176.40
71FogBlueInSanFran33372Candy-OThe Cars1979136.38
72GoatersLeftShin1021199Pocket SymphonyAir2007116.36
73southamptonblue1061264Odyssey Number FivePowderfinger2000116.36
74BimboBob38432Sule SkerryErland Cooper201996.33
75bennyboy951129Head Over HeelsCocteau Twins1983116.32
76Coatigan53577Painting of a Panic AttackFrightened Rabbit2016166.31
77southamptonblue31356Dogs at BayBad \\ Dreems2015146.29
78Coatigan1131436Clarity: Pheonix SessionsJimmy Eat World2021146.29
79bennyboy12177Southern Rock OperaDrive-By Truckers2001116.27
80Journolud861029Twelve Dreams of Dr.SardonicusSpirit1970106.20
81BlueHammer8565797Chasing YesterdayNoel Gallagher's High Flying Birds2015116.18
82bennyboy66809A Black and White NightRoy Orbison1989136.15
83Coatigan851025Burst and DecayThe Wonder Years201776.14
84BimboBob22287Songs of Faith and DevotionDepeche Mode1993156.13
85Mancitydoogle41449Crazy on the WeekendSunhouse1998106.10
86denislawsbackheel72888Rough MixPete Townshend and Ronnie Lane1977106.10
87RobMCFC79972GirlfriendMatthew Sweet1991116.09
88Saddleworth219247Jordan: The ComebackPrefab Sprout1990126.08
89FogBlueInSanFran17226Welcome Interstate ManagersFountains of Wayne2003146.07
90threespires60667StandSly and the Family Stone1969146.07
91Coatigan1311633CrawlerIdles2021166.00
92OB11281587Pretty ViciousThe Struts2023146.00
93RobMCFC32364So Runs The World AwayJosh Ritter2010116.00
94Coatigan43463PuzzleBiffy Clyro2007116.00
95southamptonblue1211429Day for NightThe Tragically Hip1994116.00
96GornikDaze62739DoolittlePixies1989195.97
97GornikDaze78963DegüelloZZ Top1979145.92
98FogBlueInSanFran64792Under The Big Black SunX1982135.92
99Mancitydoogle73896Warren ZevonWarren Zevon1976115.91
100OB150525Women and Children FirstVan Halen1980185.88
101RobMCFC1251524Listen Like ThievesINXS1985175.88
102BimboBob1031209SplitThe Groundhogs1971125.88
103Mancitydoogle56621Hard StationPaul Brady1981135.85
104Mancitydoogle26323New YorkLou Reed1989145.82
105KnaresboroughBlue37425RusalkaAntonín Dvořák1900115.82
106Journolud13188Gypsy BloodDoll By Doll1979145.79
107FogBlueInSanFran47485Last SplashThe Breeders1993135.77
108Journolud23302Aldous HardingAldous Harding2014125.75
109Bill Walker45476From This PlacePat Metheny202085.75
110denislawsbackheel1051244Greatest HitsBob Seger1994155.73
111shackattack1241478The Magical World of the StrandsMichael Head & The Strands1997175.68
112Coatigan70853So Much for the AfterglowEverclear1997155.67
113Journolud991154Astral WeeksVan Morrison1968145.64
114BlueHammer8518240A Century EndsDavid Gray1993135.62
115Coatigan30352Given to the WildThe Maccabees201295.56
116Journolud54591American GothicDavid Ackles1972175.47
117KnaresboroughBlue52559At Budokan (Live)Bob Dylan1978135.46
118Journolud39439The Magical Record of Blue OrchidsBlue Orchids2019105.40
119Mancitydoogle1331682Guitar TownSteve Earle1986145.39
120southamptonblue59650A Graveyard of Empty BottlesThe Dogs D'Amour1989135.38
121BlueHammer8534378Once (OST)Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova2006145.36
122RobMCFC46481King SwampKing Swamp1989155.27
123BlueHammer8581987SurrenderThe Chemical Brothers1999135.27
124GoatersLeftShin1191405People on SundayDomenique Dumont2020125.08
125GoatersLeftShin11169Planetary UnfoldingMichael Stearns1981185.00
126OB120255DestroyerKISS1976165.00
127LGWIO1041237Selected Ambient Works 85-92Aphex Twin1992155.00
128Gaudion M901060Songs of Her'sHer's201794.89
129denislawsbackheel28337Death of a Ladies' ManLeonard Cohen1977144.71
130BlueHammer851101297Endless SummerThe Midnight2016124.67
131denislawsbackheel10151The Hangman's Beautiful DaughterThe Incredible String Band1968154.52
132KnaresboroughBlue21276VoiceEyeless In Gaza1993144.50
133GoatersLeftShin29347All Possible FuturesMiami Horror2015124.33
134threespires1011181A Grand Don't Come For FreeThe Streets2004164.06

Ground rules

1. Let me know if you want to nominate an album. Don't say what the album is yet as we want a bit of mystery and anticipation.
2. A schedule of nominators will be maintained in this post so people know when their nomination is due to appear.
3. Each Tuesday, a nominator will give a review of their album and tell us why it means so much to them. You do not get to score on your own album
4. All other members score the album 1-10 (0 or less will be rounded up to 1) and comment/discuss at will.
5. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
6. Once all regular and new contributors have nominated, everybody can have a 2nd choice and we'll carry on until every album ever made has been reviewed. Or until people get bored.

Obviously I can't enforce this, but it would be nice if everybody who wants to nominate joins in reviewing and scoring other nominations.

Nominators List

Round #9


12/06/2024 RobMCFC
19/06/2024 bennyboy
26/06/2024 BlueHammer85
03/07/2024 OB1
10/07/2024 Saddleworth2
17/07/2024 BlueMoonRisin'
24/07/2024 Coatigan
31/07/2024 GornikDaze
07/08/2024 Mancitydoogle
14/08/2024 threespires
21/08/2024 LGWIO
28/08/2024 FogBlueInSanFran
04/09/2024 Journolud
11/09/2024 GoatersLeftShin
18/09/2024 BimboBob
25/09/2024 southamptonblue
02/10/2024 Black&White&BlueMoon Town
09/10/2024 shackattack
16/10/2024 Big Joe Corrigan
23/10/2024 mrbelfry

Previous nominators not on the current list

KnaresboroughBlue
Bill Walker
Mancity2012_eamo
Marklr
Gareth Barry Conlon (aka Gaudion M)
stoneblue
denislawsbackheel
 
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Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
Sounds complicated.
 
Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
What you are saying I think, is that anyone that wants to nominate an album passes their name to you and you will produce a list/order for those album nominations. Anyone can vote or Bly those that have put their name forward?
 
What you are saying I think, is that anyone that wants to nominate an album passes their name to you and you will produce a list/order for those album nominations. Anyone can vote or Bly those that have put their name forward?
The initial list of nominators will those who have contributed most to the existing Top 1100 thread. Nobody needs to pass their name to me.
The way to get on that nominators list is to keep scoring and contributing to that thread
Any Blue Moon member is free to vote and comment here, regardless of their participation on the other thread.
 
The initial list of nominators will those who have contributed most to the existing Top 1100 thread. Nobody needs to pass their name to me.
The way to get on that nominators list is to keep scoring and contributing to that thread
Any Blue Moon member is free to vote and comment here, regardless of their participation on the other thread.
ok. understand. I haven't contributed that much to the thread as I haven't had much interest in the albums randomly chosen. Not a great fan of the original Colin Larkin list tbf.
 
Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
So the idea is for whomever is selected to pick a record and give their thoughts about why it was picked, but not to give it a review, yes? It doesn't necessarily have to be a record we love or hate or even one we've listened to, right?

I do think, assuming I get a slot, I'd pick records that aren't on Larkin's Top 1000 list so we get some variety and avoid repetition . . . who knows, we could be reviewing Nevermind in 2038!!! :)
 
So the idea is for whomever is selected to pick a record and give their thoughts about why it was picked, but not to give it a review, yes? It doesn't necessarily have to be a record we love or hate or even one we've listened to, right?

I do think, assuming I get a slot, I'd pick records that aren't on Larkin's Top 1000 list so we get some variety and avoid repetition . . . who knows, we could be reviewing Nevermind in 2038!!! :)
The person picking the album definitely gets to review it in as much detail as they want. I was thinking that we'd (probably) all pick our favourite albums most of the time so a 5/5 was a given, which is why I thought it would be pointless scoring it yourself. But obviously you can pick an album to annoy everybody if you so wanted.

As somebody who's reviewed and voted on every album so far, you're definitely in the first batch of nominators! ..... assuming people are happy with the system.
 

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