The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

When I was 16 I caught a bad case of ennui. Luckily I was disinterested enough to consider doing anything drastic but if I had ceased to exist through some kind of natural cause or a snap of Thanos' finger then I wouldn't have minded. I'd have shrugged my shoulders and waved goodbye to people who wouldn't even notice I was gone. Like a pencil with an eraser at both ends I still feel largely pointless today. Lorem Ipsum with a bad haircut and crooked teeth.

When I was 17 I had a semi-reluctant conversion to Christianity. Reluctant because I'm still not totally enamoured to mattering but thankful that my eyes were opened to how endlessly fascinating everything is. Stop Making Sense mirrors some of that but stops one place short - it revels in the creative rather than the creator. It says life is boring go make something. It describes heaven as a party but on repeat, shorn of the flux and creative potential of life and in doing so fails to reflect on the eternally creative God from which the creativity they feel lacking flows. So that's a bit dumb or at best human. Byrne should read Romans 1 for insight.

It's super bold to start Psycho Killer solo, acoustically and without Weymouth's bass line but it's very satisfying to see a recreation of what has been created. I have always found it odd that bands strive to recreate what they did in the studio live. They are different environments so I like to see it embraced as it is here. I was pleasantly surprised to hear my 11 year old singing along although she has no idea where she has heard the song. It's a great song which spontaneously often appears in my mouth as evidence of the mild tourrettes I'm convinced I have. My wife disagrees and just thinks I'm needy and seeking attention. It's also why she refuses to respond to me constantly giving her thumbs up and leaves me hanging when I want a high five.

Byrne's vocal shows it's limits as it reaches for the high notes but I also love this. It's not corrected. It's human. I don't think his voice is as bad as has been described in these pages recently. I actually really like his delivery - the songs are not sung they are performed. This is really obvious when you watch the concert which everyone should do although I think the deluxe version on Spotify sounds better.

Heaven sees the appearance of Weymouth on bass. She is primarily the reason I've been wanting to deep dive into Talking Heads. She's often on lists of underrated bass players and whilst Heaven isn't a big showcase for her there is enough going on with her choice of note length for me to recognise game. Heaven is a fine song which demonstrates the limits of Byrnes world view but there is something inherently fascinating about how they've started this live album. Where he fails to recognise the Creator I applaud the creator.

My goodness I love Thank You For Sending Me An Angel. It demonstrates the difference between a vocal being sung compared to performed and as the band begins to grow, although it's not at its peak, there is a real sense of joy. It's more obvious on the concert footage because you can clearly see it but you can also hear how much the band are enjoying playing together. I've been there playing bass - when the little you're doing is contributing to an amazing whole - it's thrilling. The created, creating, in reflection of the Creator.

Found A Job encourages us to create. It's a little annoying when celebrities and rich people talk as if being ordinary is somehow deficient. Most of us are ordinary people who pay for the dreams of the artist to be realised. If you can eschew the 9-5 and make money being a musician it's because the ordinary guy working the 9-5 is buying your overpriced t-shirt. We crowd fund your narcacism so have some respect! This song however doesn't say that you need to elevate the creative but instead you should elevate yourself by creating.

I've already written too much and invoked a religious spirit to this album but I think I'm accurately reflecting what's on here. Slippery People is full of religious imagery perhaps as a critique of religion but if you watch the concert you'll see it mimics a pentecostal revival at times. You've got a bunch of musicians vibing, people running around, people on the floor. I think there is reaching happening - that just the act of creating something is a spiritual experience. Talking Heads obviously create music which they are then even recreating for this live experience which is about even more than the music. Byrne even looks like a preacher with an amazing physicality and the whole band move in sync responding and reacting. It could almost be a church service with visuals behind the band but the music wouldn't be this good. The church worship machine removes a bit of personality.

There are a bunch of great songs on here played by people who are clearly enjoying themselves. The overall message is that creating is good for the human spirit. In whatever form that takes and I can unreluctantly agree with the sentiment.

One final word for Once in a Lifetime. This song is sooo wonderful it's worth a point or two on its own. It's a song I once hated due to some backwards idiocy but once I got over myself it's a song that I adore. It is fundamentally dancable and Byrne's delivery is impeccable. I don't know how you'd improve this song. It's David Silva levels of song writing.

Sorry for the long review and not even mentioning a third of the songs. It's a looong album and I needed to exorcise some ennui by this simple creative act. It's a 9 from me.
I am often amazed at the ability of those who frequent this thread to write so wonderfully. To partake of a group listening and spend the time putting their thoughts down to share with others. In a busy world, the time and effort put in by your good self and the likes of @FogBlueInSanFran , @threespires , @RobMCFC and others is amazing and adds to the whole work as often they provide fresh insight.
Yes, what's he doing?

Always thought that if you had a weak song then you fucked about a bit to distract. Classic slight of hand.
That said, it is also good to get alternate views and shows that there is a need for people to ask if the emperor is wearing any clothes.
 
I got into Talking Heads quite earlier on as I was a fan of Jonathan Richman ,and Jerry Harrison was in The Modern Lovers.Loved a lot of bands from the CBGB’S scene Television,Patti Smith Group,Blondie,Mink Deville and of course TH.I own all their albums and most of DB solo output.This album is a fantastic performance and reworking of songs from their first five albums. I watched the film which is a great testament to their art.Although not the best vocalist I do like DBs voice it suits the songs perfectly.The combination of art rock ,funk and on later albums african influences just make even an non dancer like me want to tap my feet.The way JH and TW play different instruments during the concert reminds me of the WOD gig I saw recently.I wish I’d seen TH live they look like they’re having as much fun as the audience.

Great Choice @LGW10

I’ll have to deduct a point for it being a live/ greatest hits album

9/10
 
From memory didn't you give the album a 0 or a 1 ?

If so I'm not sure your opinion or hearing matters that much to me tbh:-)
Ah, the beauty of the internet.

Where one persons views are different to another's and therefore wrong.

We'll probably agree on next weeks album. Or maybe not. Who knows.

Ah, the beauty of the internet.
 
Ah, the beauty of the internet.

Where one persons views are different to another's and therefore wrong.

We'll probably agree on next weeks album. Or maybe not. Who knows.

Ah, the beauty of the internet.
I find nothing wrong with your opinion Bimbo. I actually welcome it in here. You like what you like and visa versa.
But give credit to Hilts and don’t put words in his mouth, so to speak. He didn’t say your opinion is wrong. He was merely pointing out that with you at the extreme end of appreciation of this piece, or more accurately, lack of appreciation of it, he doesn’t find any common ground with you and disregards your stance.

At least that’s what I got from it.

There’s room in here for every opinion on the spectrum.

Believe me, I’d have the same opinion of many a band in here that some people seem to love. I also don’t really get the hate of others.
 
I find nothing wrong with your opinion Bimbo. I actually welcome it in here. You like what you like and visa versa.
But give credit to Hilts and don’t put words in his mouth, so to speak. He didn’t say your opinion is wrong. He was merely pointing out that with you at the extreme end of appreciation of this piece, or more accurately, lack of appreciation of it, he doesn’t find any common ground with you and disregards your stance.

At least that’s what I got from it.

There’s room in here for every opinion on the spectrum.

Believe me, I’d have the same opinion of many a band in here that some people seem to love. I also don’t really get the hate of others.

That was basically it, personally I find it odd that anyone could mark 99% of any album at 0 or 1, the cynic in me thinks it's OTT for the sake of it or to just trying to reduce the overall score for some bizarre reason. Anyhow as you stated whatever the reason there is no common ground.
 
I like this thread because there is good discourse , frank and informative and eloquent at times detail and exchanges , new discoveries , you can read each post and often its fresh and enlightening and lacking the boring bile we get on the posts on mass in say some of the politics threads where I used to post in and have some interest in ( sorry Fog but for example you are far more adept and compelling in this thread notwithstanding our similar taste in music both likes and dislikes as it turns out ). To quote the democrats for one brief splice far more joy for readers and posters than the aforementioned thread.
 
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Ah, the beauty of the internet.

Where one persons views are different to another's and therefore wrong.

We'll probably agree on next weeks album. Or maybe not. Who knows.

Ah, the beauty of the internet.
Uh, no, everyone is going to agree on next week’s album.

You’re all going to be wrong, but you’ll all agree.
 

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