The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

[Coatigan]

Anyway MrB you’ve sparked the weirdest discussions and debates yet, with this week’s choice.
I’m basically filling in time until I get another chance to complete my first listen.
I’ll have to wait until the Mrs. drops home the mother in law.
In the mean time I’m reorganising my kitchen drawer.

I know, right! We've had rap from both the east side (sadds) and the west (you). We've had kitchen utensils, culinary delights (lorne and marzipan), drawer order and all sorts.

And nobody had even me tioned repetition yet! I have often spoken of the power of repetition, in music.

 

[mrbelfry]

I know, right! We've had rap from both the east side (sadds) and the west (you). We've had kitchen utensils, culinary delights (lorne and marzipan), drawer order and all sorts.

And nobody had even me tioned repetition yet! I have often spoken of the power of repetition, in music.

I feel like everyone is already tired of this album though and it's only Sunday. You've all worked hard to come to considered opinions which I definitely appreciate

 

[BimboBob]

I feel like everyone is already tired of this album though and it's only Sunday. You've all worked hard to come to considered opinions which I definitely appreciate

That's a bit unfair mate. I got tired of it by Thursday.

 

[mrbelfry]

That's a bit unfair mate. I got tired of it by Thursday.

You're a saint bro

 

[Coatigan]

I feel like everyone is already tired of this album though and it's only Sunday. You've all worked hard to come to considered opinions which I definitely appreciate

Give it time, it comes back around.

Pretty much exactly how I feel about this album, skip the first 20 seconds.

 

[threespires]

Give it time, it comes back around.

Pretty much exactly how I feel about this album, skip the first 20 seconds.

I think I'm at 1.06 at the moment but I might give it another whirl on Tuesday to test the theory.

Repetition is indeed very interesting, in olden days lots of odd theories around inducing mania or catatonic states. There's a couple of books knocking about on repetition in music that look quite interesting but they're pretty expensive so I haven't sprung for either...yet.

 

[Coatigan]

I think I'm at 1.06 at the moment but I might give it another whirl on Tuesday to test the theory.

Repetition is indeed very interesting, in olden days lots of odd theories around inducing mania or catatonic states. There's a couple of books knocking about on repetition in music that look quite interesting but they're pretty expensive so I haven't sprung for either...yet.

It was one of my playlist theme ideas. Maybe one day.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It was one of my playlist theme ideas. Maybe one day.

I don’t get what you mean by repetition.
Tell us again.

 

[mrbelfry]

Repetition is pretty important in music. Your brain likes to feel like it knows what it is doing so if it can predict what's happening and it is proven right you get a little chemical boost as your brain celebrates itself. I read a book years ago about how our brains are kind of insecure so whenever it's confronted with something that confirms what you already think then you get a little dopamine or something. That's why it's very hard to challenge entrenched ideas because your brain rewards you when you have those ideas confirmed and hates it when they are challenged.

I think that's why we also get attached to styles and genres etc. when you know and understand them your brain is happy so you like that style or music. It's also why pop music is so immediate. It is familiar and repetitive.

It's also why syncopation and doing something unexpected can be powerful because your brain goes "wow I wasn't expecting that" but if it happens too much you begin to get irritated.

And definitely repetition can lead to trance states or mania. That's why repetitive music is often part of ritual and spirituality. In my experience it's more common in non-European cultures although I think something is happening with football crowds in places like Germany where the crowd just kind of drone on.

 

[LGWIO]

And whilst everyone else appears to have given this full consideration, I have still to give it the first listen.
Back from sunny Croatia with a 20 degree drop in temp as we landed in Dublin. Just caught up with the thread and not sure whether I should have given this a listen prior to reading so much of the views of the "club".
I'm thinking this could well be a marmite situation.