The Album Review Club - Week #147 - (page 1942) - Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan

Well said

Ok Computer is definitely up there with one of my favourite Albums ‘Let Down’ ‘Karma Police’ and ‘No Surprises’ are all beauties
I will save my thoughts on this record for when someone has the balls to nominate it.

However, I will ask those who believe it has something important to say about the dangers of consumerism to ask themselves why Thom Yorke isn’t angry about it like The Clash, The Jam and Gang of Four were when they tread on this very, very well-worn topic.

Here’s a hint: Thom Yorke is richer than you.
 
I will save my thoughts on this record for when someone has the balls to nominate it. However, I will ask those who believe it has something important to say about the dangers of consumerism to ask themselves why Thom Yorke isn’t angry about it like The Clash, The Jam and Gang of Four were when they tread on this very, very well-worn topic.

Here’s a hint: Thom Yorke is richer than you.

Not to arsed about the whole saving the planet from consumerism concept - just love the loud experimental prog rock indie vibe on this record and the slower ones they did - stood out from the grunge scene and rock scene at the time - on my list to put forward for sure
 
Not to arsed about the whole saving the planet from consumerism concept - just love the loud experimental prog rock indie vibe on this record and the slower ones they did - stood out from the grunge scene and rock scene at the time - on my list to put forward for sure
Well it certainly did stand out, I'll grant you.

By the way, I hate fucking "Creep" too -- hated it from the instant I first heard it. Maybe they just got off on the wrong foot with me.

OKC is not ALL bad. I like 18% of Paranoid Android despite its endless running time, and the video for Karma Police is mildly interesting. :)
 
Well it certainly did stand out, I'll grant you.

By the way, I hate fucking "Creep" too -- hated it from the instant I first heard it. Maybe they just got off on the wrong foot with me.

OKC is not ALL bad. I like 18% of Paranoid Android despite its endless running time, and the video for Karma Police is mildly interesting. :)

I’ve always thought Creep was overated - same for Nirvana Teen Spirit - both loud catchy choruses to cover what are average songs

Karma Police video, good shout! One of the best that and Street Spirit is a criminally underrated video/song
 
Well it certainly did stand out, I'll grant you.

By the way, I hate fucking "Creep" too -- hated it from the instant I first heard it. Maybe they just got off on the wrong foot with me.

OKC is not ALL bad. I like 18% of Paranoid Android despite its endless running time, and the video for Karma Police is mildly interesting. :)
So you don’t like them then. Aaah! I’m starting to get it.
Foggy doesn’t like Radiohead. I must take a note of that.
 
I’m with @bennyboy on Radiohead, really liked ‘The Bends’ ‘Pablo Honey and Ok Computer had a few good tracks the rest shite!
And I really don’t like Thom Yorke ,not because he’s richer than me he‘s just up his own arse.
 
I will save my thoughts on this record for when someone has the balls to nominate it.

However, I will ask those who believe it has something important to say about the dangers of consumerism to ask themselves why Thom Yorke isn’t angry about it like The Clash, The Jam and Gang of Four were when they tread on this very, very well-worn topic.

Here’s a hint: Thom Yorke is richer than you.
I think the album is more than just about being about the dangers of consumerism, although that's definitely a part of it. It's more a wider warning about consumerism, technology, the corporate culture - maybe about what society itself is heading towards. As I said, I think "Fitter Happier" sums up the album.

I don't necessarily think that every warning, or concern has to be 'angry' as such. I like The Clash and The Jam and to some extent the GoF but they definitely share a similar style - punky, guitar based music. There no problem with that, but Radiohead aren't a punk band. I'd probably mark them down more as progressive if anything. People can be angry, and express that anger, in different ways. I'd say that What's Goin On is a perfect example of this - it's absolutely beautiful, but is also 'angry' at what is happening. I can listen to that album, and Ok Computer, and feel uplifted by the musicianship but also listen to that deeper message.

I don't buy the idea that Thom Yorke does music for money or is at all bothered about how much he makes from it. I'd regard him as an artist the same way that Paul Weller is. They would do this even if they worked in a factory.. The journey from Pablo Honey, The Bends, Ok Computer, In Rainbows and Kid A shows that they move on. If you liked Ok Computer, then In Rainbows is a 'hard listen' I think. In fact it's nothing like their other albums and again, I can't think of any other mainstream artist they sound like. He could easily have pumped out Ok Computer 2 and raked it in, but they moved on as musicians because they are artists and feel they have something to say.

I love Creep too :) maybe you had to be there, but I remember hearing it for the first time in the early 90s in "The Shack" in Oldham and you'd not heard anything like it. We all just kind of stopped and listened. It was this lovey-dovey song then that guitar crashes in with the "you're so f**kin special" line and it just sounded incredible. I wasn't the only one who thought that.
 
I think the album is more than just about being about the dangers of consumerism, although that's definitely a part of it. It's more a wider warning about consumerism, technology, the corporate culture - maybe about what society itself is heading towards. As I said, I think "Fitter Happier" sums up the album.

I don't necessarily think that every warning, or concern has to be 'angry' as such. I like The Clash and The Jam and to some extent the GoF but they definitely share a similar style - punky, guitar based music. There no problem with that, but Radiohead aren't a punk band. I'd probably mark them down more as progressive if anything. People can be angry, and express that anger, in different ways. I'd say that What's Goin On is a perfect example of this - it's absolutely beautiful, but is also 'angry' at what is happening. I can listen to that album, and Ok Computer, and feel uplifted by the musicianship but also listen to that deeper message.

I don't buy the idea that Thom Yorke does music for money or is at all bothered about how much he makes from it. I'd regard him as an artist the same way that Paul Weller is. They would do this even if they worked in a factory.. The journey from Pablo Honey, The Bends, Ok Computer, In Rainbows and Kid A shows that they move on. If you liked Ok Computer, then In Rainbows is a 'hard listen' I think. In fact it's nothing like their other albums and again, I can't think of any other mainstream artist they sound like. He could easily have pumped out Ok Computer 2 and raked it in, but they moved on as musicians because they are artists and feel they have something to say.

I love Creep too :) maybe you had to be there, but I remember hearing it for the first time in the early 90s in "The Shack" in Oldham and you'd not heard anything like it. We all just kind of stopped and listened. It was this lovey-dovey song then that guitar crashes in with the "you're so f**kin special" line and it just sounded incredible. I wasn't the only one who thought that.
Careful now. Sounds like you’re saying they’re good.
 
I think the album is more than just about being about the dangers of consumerism, although that's definitely a part of it. It's more a wider warning about consumerism, technology, the corporate culture - maybe about what society itself is heading towards. As I said, I think "Fitter Happier" sums up the album.

I don't necessarily think that every warning, or concern has to be 'angry' as such. I like The Clash and The Jam and to some extent the GoF but they definitely share a similar style - punky, guitar based music. There no problem with that, but Radiohead aren't a punk band. I'd probably mark them down more as progressive if anything. People can be angry, and express that anger, in different ways. I'd say that What's Goin On is a perfect example of this - it's absolutely beautiful, but is also 'angry' at what is happening. I can listen to that album, and Ok Computer, and feel uplifted by the musicianship but also listen to that deeper message.

I don't buy the idea that Thom Yorke does music for money or is at all bothered about how much he makes from it. I'd regard him as an artist the same way that Paul Weller is. They would do this even if they worked in a factory.. The journey from Pablo Honey, The Bends, Ok Computer, In Rainbows and Kid A shows that they move on. If you liked Ok Computer, then In Rainbows is a 'hard listen' I think. In fact it's nothing like their other albums and again, I can't think of any other mainstream artist they sound like. He could easily have pumped out Ok Computer 2 and raked it in, but they moved on as musicians because they are artists and feel they have something to say.

I love Creep too :) maybe you had to be there, but I remember hearing it for the first time in the early 90s in "The Shack" in Oldham and you'd not heard anything like it. We all just kind of stopped and listened. It was this lovey-dovey song then that guitar crashes in with the "you're so f**kin special" line and it just sounded incredible. I wasn't the only one who thought that.
Ha, naturally In Rainbows is the one record of theirs I like okay!

I’m prepared to argue Radiohead are Pink Floyd after incorporating all the worst traits of U2 musically, and while a lot of my complaints about Thom Yorke are very much tongue in cheek, I hear real angst in Kurt Cobain (and Scott Hutchinson as I noted) whereas I think Yorke sells angst.

They did however do a credible cover of “Ceremony”, though even that was a touch pretentious :)

In the end it really just comes down to me thinking they’re significantly overrated more than truly bad. Reading the tea leaves here, I think I feel about them as many here feel about Coldplay.
 
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