The Album Review Club - Week #195 (page 1310) - A New World Record - ELO

I know but I also don't want to torture people with my choice!! I suspect whichever I choose will end up with fewer points than anything else and I'm fine with that but would like listeners get something from it.

Ultimately it was more just trying to see if any rules/guidelines had been laid down that would preclude any choice.
Go with what you want KB. I've not volunteered to be a reviewer because I just don't know if I'd have the time to write up a decent enough synopsis when called up! However, that said, there are some albums/artists that I like that I would be interested to see how they are received by others - I might try writing some reviews in preparation. I'd love a classical album to review, by the way, or some jazz, I never listen to jazz.
 
I know but I also don't want to torture people with my choice!! I suspect whichever I choose will end up with fewer points than anything else and I'm fine with that but would like listeners get something from it.

Ultimately it was more just trying to see if any rules/guidelines had been laid down that would preclude any choice.
My choice will not be straightforward either mate. I just would like to bring some of the pleasure I have had from this album to others. If just one person listens to it and thinks ‘that is sublime’ that will be more than enough for me. It’s not a compo, it’s sharing things we love for the benefit of others so go for it.
 
Go with what you want KB. I've not volunteered to be a reviewer because I just don't know if I'd have the time to write up a decent enough synopsis when called up! However, that said, there are some albums/artists that I like that I would be interested to see how they are received by others - I might try writing some reviews in preparation. I'd love a classical album to review, by the way, or some jazz, I never listen to jazz.
I know you specifically said you didn’t want to nominate, and I respect that, but if it’s just a long synopsis putting you off, don’t let it.

You’ve been a great contributor in the Top 1000 thread and if you want to nominate on here and just literally say “this is my choice, I bought it in Xxxx and I love it” then that’s good enough.

We have 9 nominatiors so you’ve got plenty of time to think about it if you change your mind. But either way, no pressure, just commenting and voting is fine.
 
I have to say I found that trying to listen to all the tracks a real chore as I just didn't like the country/rock musical style at all. They seemed very samey to me and not one track stood out as 'that's not bad, actually'.

Tom Petty has been referenced by at least one poster as being similar in genre and though I'm not a huge fan of his there are several songs he released that I really like..in particular You Saw Me Comin'. There wasn't a single track on this album that made me want a second listen.

I don't want to appear mean to those that rate it as one of their all time favourite albums so I will award it a solid 3...
 
I have to say I found that trying to listen to all the tracks a real chore as I just didn't like the country/rock musical style at all. They seemed very samey to me and not one track stood out as 'that's not bad, actually'.

Tom Petty has been referenced by at least one poster as being similar in genre and though I'm not a huge fan of his there are several songs he released that I really like..in particular You Saw Me Comin'. There wasn't a single track on this album that made me want a second listen.

I don't want to appear mean to those that rate it as one of their all time favourite albums so I will award it a solid 3...
Very similar thoughts to mine.
I'm considering not reviewing it at all because I dont want to upset Rob, who I respect as a decent poster.
I consider the albums on the other thread as fair game, as they are randomly picked.
This is very different, they are someones favourite album, and often for personal reasons.
Maybe I just need to learn to be more diplomatic
 
I have to say I found that trying to listen to all the tracks a real chore as I just didn't like the country/rock musical style at all. They seemed very samey to me and not one track stood out as 'that's not bad, actually'.

Tom Petty has been referenced by at least one poster as being similar in genre and though I'm not a huge fan of his there are several songs he released that I really like..in particular You Saw Me Comin'. There wasn't a single track on this album that made me want a second listen.

I don't want to appear mean to those that rate it as one of their all time favourite albums so I will award it a solid 3...
No worries - you like what you like so that’s fair enough.
Very similar thoughts to mine.
I'm considering not reviewing it at all because I dont want to upset Rob, who I respect as a decent poster.
I consider the albums on the other thread as fair game, as they are randomly picked.
This is very different, they are someones favourite album, and often for personal reasons.
Maybe I just need to learn to be more diplomatic
Very kind words there, thank you. But listen, three people have given this a 10 (and obviously if I was voting it would be four of us). So if gets a few low scores, that’s fair. You won’t upset me - it is my favourite album and nothing anybody says will change my opinion, but I respect that people have different tastes so any opinion is welcome.

I do understand what you are saying about this thread being different. You are correct, there’s a good chance people are putting albums, in which they have years of emotional investment, up for potential slaughter! But as long as people are respectful and honest, that’s all we can ask.
 
John Cougar Mellencamp
Lonesome
Marks?????????

Another that I was really looking forward to listening to based on me never having knowingly listened to him / them before.

Top man @RobMCFC !

As Mrs Onholiday likes to observe or remind me, I'm not very good at knowing what I want or like in life, but I'm extremely good at knowing what I don't want or like (a few high profile exceptions).

In theory, there aren't any reasons for me to not to enjoy this album. I have grown to like some folk and even more so country music (thank you to predominantly Johnnie and Neil), I have no reason not to appreciate Celtic 'sounding' instruments that make up the band (my father was Irish but most Irish music doesn't it for me - with extreme prejudice this doesn't include the likes of Rory Gallagher!!!!!!!!!), but it just doesn't do it for me. Even for the hits that everyone seems to enjoy on here.

Don't mind his voice, they are a nicely arranged very accomplished set of musicians, he is singing about a 'something' which is a turn on, but it doesn't do it for me.

The accordion (I think) doesn't work for me, way way too front and centre - I find it overpowering and I don't like the set up of the drum kit (seems superficial but it pricks my ear immediately).

I really liked the bit that someone posted that the band sat down and discussed how they wanted to sound in advance of going into the studio - makes perfect sense to me although I'm certain I would end up in the studio and stumble upon how we sound after playing.

I did mention this in whatever thread earlier that I was pretty delighted when Blues from the porch came on - my immediate gut feel was 'what a great change of pace for the album' (granted I as I was listening whilst driving, so didn't realise it was the end of the album not that it wasn't part of the original album). Go figure - but I really do like that song :-)

This feels harsh but I feel it being around a 3-4 (again referring to my previous scoring in the top 1000 thread), and we'll round up this time to a 4 as I just listened to Blues from the porch and it's good.

On I go to Metallica...............
 
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John Cougar Mellencamp
Lonesome
Marks?????????

Another that I was really looking forward to listening to based on me never having knowingly listened to him / them before.

Top man @RobMCFC !

As Mrs Onholiday likes to observe or remind me, I'm not very good at knowing what I want or like in life, but I'm extremely good at knowing what I don't want or like (a few high profile exceptions).

In theory, there aren't any reasons for me to not to enjoy this album. I have grown to like some folk and even more so country music (thank you to predominantly Johnnie and Neil), I have no reason not to appreciate Celtic 'sounding' instruments that make up the band (my father was Irish but most Irish music doesn't it for me - with extreme prejudice this doesn't include the likes of Rory Gallagher!!!!!!!!!), but it just doesn't do it for me. Even for the hits that everyone seems to enjoy on here.

Don't mind his voice, they are a nicely arranged very accomplished set of musicians, he is singing about a 'something' which is a turn on, but it doesn't do it for me.

The accordion (I think) doesn't work for me, way way too front and centre - I find it overpowering and I don't like the set up of the drum kit (seems superficial but it pricks my ear immediately).

I really liked the bit that someone posted that the band sat down and discussed how they wanted to sound in advance of going into the studio - makes perfect sense to me although I'm certain I would end up in the studio and stumble upon how we sound after playing.

I did mention this in whatever thread earlier that I was pretty delighted when Blues from the porch came on - my immediate gut feel was 'what a great change of pace for the album' (granted I as I was listening whilst driving, so didn't realise it was the end of the album not that it wasn't part of the original album). Go figure - but I really do like that song :-)

This feels harsh but I feel it being around a 3-4 (again referring to my previous scoring in the top 1000 thread), and we'll round up this time to a 4 as I just listened to Blues from the porch and it's good.

On I go on to Metallica...............
It’s fair to say that if you don’t like the sound of the accordion, you aren’t going to love this album, but thanks for giving it a go.
 
It’s fair to say that if you don’t like the sound of the accordion, you aren’t going to love this album, but thanks for giving it a go.
It's had 2 and a half run throughs and I purposely held off for a day or so to see if my subconscious kicked in (bizarrely this is pretty much how I best learn / process).

Are any of his other albums less 'folky'?

A lot of everyone's observations were pretty nailed on, he really does have a Springsteen thing to him (to be fair I'm not a big his either).......,....
 
It's had 2 and a half run throughs and I purposely held off for a day or so to see if my subconscious kicked in (bizarrely this is pretty much how I best learn / process).

Are any of his other albums less 'folky'?

A lot of everyone's observations were pretty nailed on, he really does have a Springsteen thing to him (to be fair I'm not a big his either).......,....
They are. Whilst most of his music shares a “sound”, you could try Whenever We Wanted (1991) for crunchy guitars or Mr Happy Go Lucky (1996) for a mix of everything (including loops and beats - not usually my thing but this really works).

Springsteen, Mellencamp and Tom Petty are all in my top 5 artists so it’s fair to say that I’m a fan of this sound.
 
Maybe not for this thread but...

Is listening to full albums still a thing these days? In my youth you could buy singles or LPs and as trying to pick out certain tracks risked damaging the vinyl you tended to listen to the whole album. Obviously now you can listen to individual tracks, create playlists etc and this is how I now listen to music. If an album is released by an artist I'm interested in then I would go through the tracks to see if Iike any enough to add them to a playlist rather than listen to the whole thing. So I listen to genres such as Rock, Northern Soul, Reggae and so on rather than albums.
 
Maybe not for this thread but...

Is listening to full albums still a thing these days? In my youth you could buy singles or LPs and as trying to pick out certain tracks risked damaging the vinyl you tended to listen to the whole album. Obviously now you can listen to individual tracks, create playlists etc and this is how I now listen to music. If an album is released by an artist I'm interested in then I would go through the tracks to see if Iike any enough to add them to a playlist rather than listen to the whole thing. So I listen to genres such as Rock, Northern Soul, Reggae and so on rather than albums.

I’m the same ,back in the day I’d buy an album and listen to it all the way through
and study the cover whilst listening.Nowadays the access to music is so simple and theres so much to listen to,I tend to just use Spotify which creates playlists automatically of artists I listen too along with others of similar genres.
 
Maybe not for this thread but...

Is listening to full albums still a thing these days? In my youth you could buy singles or LPs and as trying to pick out certain tracks risked damaging the vinyl you tended to listen to the whole album. Obviously now you can listen to individual tracks, create playlists etc and this is how I now listen to music. If an album is released by an artist I'm interested in then I would go through the tracks to see if Iike any enough to add them to a playlist rather than listen to the whole thing. So I listen to genres such as Rock, Northern Soul, Reggae and so on rather than albums.
I'm still of the listen to the album as a piece of work brigade. Sometimes I forget to turn off 'shuffle' and hearing tracks played out of order is like chalk on a blackboard to me. Most of the music I listen to, the artist will have put a degree of thought and care into the running order of the track list.
 
I'm still of the listen to the album as a piece of work brigade. Sometimes I forget to turn off 'shuffle' and hearing tracks played out of order is like chalk on a blackboard to me. Most of the music I listen to, the artist will have put a degree of thought and care into the running order of the track list.

I love a good playlist (i.e. one I've created) but 99.something% of the music I buy is albums on cd and playing then from start to finish is still how I do most of my listening. Shuffle is definitely not for use on an album.
 
I'm a cherry picker too, playlists, genres or radio is how I listen. I'm one of those annoying skipper of tracks too if I put an album on. That said these album threads have forced me to play it through. Surely that's got to be a good thing.

I'll be brief, I do own a few of JCM albums, he's put out some great stuff. Because of having a playlist it's been a long time since I really listened to it. Enjoyed hearing it again this week, it's an 8/10 for me
 
Definitely full albums for me. I do enjoy making playlists for when I go on holiday - I’ve always done that, even going back to the days when I’d record 2 or 3 cassettes for my Walkman for a 2-week holiday in Spain. There was something great about spending a lot of time deciding which 30 or 40 tracks you were going to spend the next 2 weeks with.

I have to confess that I love Spotify. Now that I don’t have to drive into work, there’s a lot less need to have a physical CD so I buy a lot less. I currently have about 12 albums in rotation vis Spotify, most of them released in the last couple of months. Even at my height of CD buying, there’s no way that I would have bought 12 albums in a two-months period.

But, I feel that there is a downside to being able to listen to an album, dismiss it quickly before moving onto the next thing.
 
Definitely full albums for me. I do enjoy making playlists for when I go on holiday - I’ve always done that, even going back to the days when I’d record 2 or 3 cassettes for my Walkman for a 2-week holiday in Spain. There was something great about spending a lot of time deciding which 30 or 40 tracks you were going to spend the next 2 weeks with.

I have to confess that I love Spotify. Now that I don’t have to drive into work, there’s a lot less need to have a physical CD so I buy a lot less. I currently have about 12 albums in rotation vis Spotify, most of them released in the last couple of months. Even at my height of CD buying, there’s no way that I would have bought 12 albums in a two-months period.

But, I feel that there is a downside to being able to listen to an album, dismiss it quickly before moving onto the next thing.
A holiday playlist is a must, even if I am going to the US and will have a hire car, which means tuning in the local Classic Rock station. That also means another new playlist when I get home based on what we heard n the radio.

I don't really do Spotify or normally need it to be honest. I've bought far too many albums since the pandemic started and still have a few things that have not had one play yet. A lot of what I buy is second hand and I tend to wait for things on my wish list to appear at a price I think is cheap for that album.
 
The Album Review Club – Week #1

The Lonesome Jubilee – John Cougar Mellencamp (1987)


Selected by RobMCFC

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How I discovered the album


I was a relatively late starter when it came to serious music listening, and as a 17-year-old in 1986, most of the stuff I got into early on was American rock. Although I bought a couple of Bruce Springsteen albums, most of the stuff was more traditional AOR like Huey Lewis & The News, ZZ Top, Journey, Bon Jovi, Survivor, Bryan Adams etc. One thing I figured out early on was that a good source of new music was Johnnie Walker’s Stereo Sequence on Radio One on a Saturday afternoon, and it was here that I first discovered John Mellencamp. The first few times I heard the fiddle blasting out on the intro for “Paper in Fire”, I thought it was weird. Then I became curious and by the fourth or fifth listen, I resolved to buy the album when it came out.

My Review

The Lonesome Jubilee is an album that, to my ears, is perfect on a number of levels. It was released at the height of the Reagan era yet its powerful lyrics are just as relevant today. The characters in these songs are battling unemployment, a lack of money, a lack of hope, a system that doesn’t work for the people or just simply struggling with the everyday problems of middle age. Even a young kid’s fear of the Russians makes an appearance and raises the question of “When the bombs fall down will they hurt everyone in my family?” Whilst I was only 19 at the time, and most of this stuff didn’t apply to me, it was inspiring to hear somebody singing about something that mattered.

As if the powerful imagery and heartfelt vocals from Mellencamp were not enough, it’s the sound of The Lonesome Jubilee that puts it head and shoulders above most other albums. Before the sessions, the singer instructed his band to learn a new set of instruments, so we get plenty of banjo, mandolin, lap steel and a host of other stringed instruments, but Mellencamp’s aces in the hole that give the album its signature sound are Lisa Germano on fiddle and John Cascella’s accordion. Despite the downbeat nature of the lyrics, it’s an album full of gorgeous, soaring melodies and hooks and in most cases, it’s the twin attack of accordion and fiddle that drive this sound, all backed by Kenny Aronoff’s propulsive drums. When it comes to favourite songs, take your pick, because there’s no weak link, but I love the opening three tracks.

Doing a bit of background research on this album, I learned two interesting things about John Mellencamp. First of all, unlike many others who play this type of music, he is not so great on guitar. He knows enough to write the songs and demo them for his band, but that’s about it. The second thing is that he knows how he wants an album to sound and is tireless when it comes to arranging and mixing. Perhaps as much as his superb songwriting, it is this last comment that explains the genius of what you hear when you play this album – there’s so much going on yet you hear every detail in the mix.

The rustic sound of the album was at odds with the synthesizer and drum machine technology of the time. It’s not exactly chart-friendly material, yet still Mellencamp still managed to score three top-20 hits in the US (two in the top 10). Of course, he’s never been as popular in the UK.

Closing Comments

The Lonesome Jubilee is my favourite album of all time, yet Colin Larkin and his philistines didn’t even name any Mellencamp albums in their Top 1000. I know it has some fans on here, but I don’t think it’s a sound that everybody will love – I’m sure that some will find it “too country”. However, I’ll be interested to hear what people think, especially those who are hearing it for the first time.

Note that “Blues from the front porch” is a bonus track that did not appear on the original album.

Please mark it 1-10, votes close on Monday.

Just a reminder that next week’s album will be selected by @FogBlueInSanFran.
Loved Johnny Cougar. First album I bought was American Fool in 1982.
Him and Steve Forbert still spend a lot of time on my turntable.
 
Loved Johnny Cougar. First album I bought was American Fool in 1982.
Him and Steve Forbert still spend a lot of time on my turntable.
Yes, I’ve got all his albums from American Fool onwards. I’ve also got Steve Forbert’s “Streets of This Town”, which includes I Blinked Once - an incredible song.

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