Too late. It's all over the internet. And Pep has loads of say in the matter. He has more clout at the club than any other employee. The bloke is unsackable in my eyes and in the eyes of many other fans. Anyone saying he doesn't have any say needs to have a word with themselves and in any case he's been hugely vocal on this issue so why wouldn't he be brought into it?Well said, Pep has no say in the matter. Absolutely no need to bring him into this arguement. He has enough to worry about. Hopefully his secretary gets it and decides to not forward it on to him.
Pep has in the past, and several times if I remember correctly, called upon us to make noise, to turn up to games etc. That didn't go down well that even our gaffer was having a pop. His recent comments show he is a bit more in touch with what is going on. If he wants to publicly call us out and try to rally the troops, no reason why we cannot do the same in reverse.Doesn't sit well with me writing to Pep like that.
Pep is the greatest ever manager, has clearly struggled with off field factors in his life.
Why would us fans want to put more pressure on him ?
Leave Pep out of this and let him concentrate on his private life, then the team.
Absolutely. And I wouldn't even describe it as calling him out, more a case of politely asking him for a favour. A certain Mr Kevin Parker definitely did call him out a few years ago though.Pep has in the past, and several times if I remember correctly, called upon us to make noise, to turn up to games etc. That didn't go down well that even our gaffer was having a pop. His recent comments show he is a bit more in touch with what is going on. If he wants to publicly call us out and try to rally the troops, no reason why we cannot do the same in reverse.
Pep has in the past, and several times if I remember correctly, called upon us to make noise, to turn up to games etc. That didn't go down well that even our gaffer was having a pop. His recent comments show he is a bit more in touch with what is going on. If he wants to publicly call us out and try to rally the troops, no reason why we cannot do the same in reverse.
Doesn't sit well with me writing to Pep like that.
Pep is the greatest ever manager, has clearly struggled with off field factors in his life.
Why would us fans want to put more pressure on him ?
Leave Pep out of this and let him concentrate on his private life, then the team.
Absolutely, Pep is the Manager/coach whatever they are called these days. It doesn't matter that he has publicly said he understands, of course he understands but that doesn't mean he is going to interfere and, let's face it, could lose his friend.Doesn't sit well with me writing to Pep like that.
Pep is the greatest ever manager, has clearly struggled with off field factors in his life.
Why would us fans want to put more pressure on him ?
Leave Pep out of this and let him concentrate on his private life, then the team.
I think we should actually ask him to do that.Pep's made a point of supporting the fans on this - and we absolutely appreciate that - so he's already involved anyway. All we're doing is asking him to have a chat with a long-standing mate of his. We're not asking him to go steaming into the boardroom, windmilling everyone, and demanding that it gets sorted
But Pep is not just any PL Manager. He is the greatest and he has more stress than most plus he is going through stuff in his private life at the moment. He has stood in our corner and got the press off our backs (fans not club) and he, like our players, needs a break. IMHOPeople are seriously worrying about a letter stressing out a Premier League manager lol. If he can't handle it, he's in the wrong job.
The fans and Pep have a great relationship. If he can help us, I'm sure he will. He is a brilliant man. We've stood in his corner throughout his career here, and now we're asking him to stand in ours. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Doesn't sit well with me writing to Pep like that.
Pep is the greatest ever manager, has clearly struggled with off field factors in his life.
Why would us fans want to put more pressure on him ?
Leave Pep out of this and let him concentrate on his private life, then the team.
1894 haven't and won't fall out with anyone, up to others if they want to fall out with us, we mailed kevin parker this morning to say your opinion is yours, ours is ours etc, we agree to disagree no need to fall out, many of our committee , our volunteers and members are part of osc branches.
kev himself i think is still a member of 1894 having joined about 10 years ago !
there was a tweet which said osc is disappointed in this decision. we don't believe that to be the case. 34000 members in the osc and they have not been asked. the leicester protest was full of rank and file osc members including some osc branch chairs and also some from citymatters too come to mention it.
we've sought a mandate and got one, fans wanted
1) high profile high impact stuff inside the ground - concourse
2) high profile high impact stuff outside the ground - demos and leaflets
3) banners - we did a display at the villa game and also made the point we were getting behind the team
4) open letter - has now been done and worldwide coverage
that's democracy
Too late. It's all over the internet. And Pep has loads of say in the matter. He has more clout at the club than any other employee. The bloke is unsackable in my eyes and in the eyes of many other fans. Anyone saying he doesn't have any say needs to have a word with themselves and in any case he's been hugely vocal on this issue so why wouldn't he be brought into it?
Pep has in the past, and several times if I remember correctly, called upon us to make noise, to turn up to games etc. That didn't go down well that even our gaffer was having a pop. His recent comments show he is a bit more in touch with what is going on. If he wants to publicly call us out and try to rally the troops, no reason why we cannot do the same in reverse.
Then he needs to cool it with the constant comments in pressers and gestures towards the home support. As long as he is bemoaning our attendance and how vocal the ground is when fans, particularly the ones who make the most noise, are being priced out then he's open to the criticism of being ill informed.
What is disappointing though? Reaching out to the manager? This has all been don peacefully, protesting with purpose and reaching out to the right people. He has called us out many times, now that is disappointing.He is not some conduit for objections, grievances or gripes ffs. He is not Twitter, or Bluemoon.
I don't like the OSC response, or its timing. But the one thing I agree with, is that I do find that original letter 'disappointing'. Poor show guys.
Its delivery, that is, I actually think the points in it are totally valid.
Maybe if the letter had been sent privately to Pep it would have gone down better with folks? Just an opinion.
He is not some conduit for objections, grievances or gripes ffs. He is not Twitter, or Bluemoon.
I don't like the OSC response, or its timing. But the one thing I agree with, is that I do find that original letter 'disappointing'. Poor show guys.
Its delivery, that is, I actually think the points in it are totally valid.
But how can anyone in the OSC hierarchy call out the delivery of that letter after KP's very public spat with Pep a few years back? That was ten times worseHe is not some conduit for objections, grievances or gripes ffs. He is not Twitter, or Bluemoon.
I don't like the OSC response, or its timing. But the one thing I agree with, is that I do find that original letter 'disappointing'. Poor show guys.
Its delivery, that is, I actually think the points in it are totally valid.
In your opinionThe irony of the groups saying the osc response is one driven by ego. When that letter is nothing BUT ego.
Whoever said it earlier bloody nailed it, it is all getting a bit silly now.