The battle for 4th place

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If Villarreal wins Europa then there is no extra spot as they are already top 4

There's only an extra spot if the EL winner isn't in top 4
So if you win the EL but are good and finish high up then you're penalised by not getting a CL place?

That's fucking idiotic. Why are you penalised for doing well in the league?
 
What's difficult to understand

Top 4 into the CL. A max of 5 teams per country are allowed in, so if City and Liverpool win their euro cups and both finish outside the top 4, then they qualify as holders and just the top 3 get in
 
So if you win the EL but are good and finish high up then you're penalised by not getting a CL place?

That's fucking idiotic. Why are you penalised for doing well in the league?
No

Top 4 gets CL spot no matter what unless we finish 5th and win CL and Liverpool win EL
 
I've just checked La Liga table and Atletico Bilbao could also finish fourth. Would that impact on our extra place if Liverpool won the EL, or is it just Villareal?
Bilbao are different I think as they only use Catalan players. So I think they get their own space in the CL as they don't play in Spain.
 
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