S04 said:
jma said:
Well, this is really what I cannot get my head around.
You would go and watch a team play 10 times a year. A team that was set up to and does represent a place that you have some connection to. You would watch that team struggle to win, draw and lose and not really give a shit. Yet, a team that is from a random, unrelated, far away place -somewhere that you may, if lucky, get to once a year or so - you would say that you are ridiculously passionate about that team?
Despite every rational indicator pointing towards you surely having much more feeling for the team you actually watch. The team that you can see, feel and touch. The team that was part of your locality growing up. The team that you can physically touch/see. The team that was deliberately set up to represent that area and community. Despite all that, you are much more passionate about the other team?
If that is the case then surely you have to admit, the only thing that would cause you to be more passionate and 'a supporter' of the English team is that it is more glamorous and there is more 'glory' involved (whether that is winning trophies or just being a 'bigger' team)? In fact, you admit as much anyway.
So, yeah, I freely admit, I cannot get my head around that. I can imagine a kid doing such a thing but I would have thought that when that kid becomes a rational adult they would ask themselves serious questions about their motivations and reasons for doing so and feel just a little bit silly about the whole thing.
(Although I know that I am the weird one in this respect as so many people do just that)
(Can I just add that the above sounds a little like a personal attack. It's not meant to be, it's just addressing what is raised. I have no issue with you doing whatever you want to do. It has nothing to do with me. You just happen to have responded, that's all)
Teams don´t really represent areas and communities anymore surely, för 9 out of 10 footy fans football exists in their living room on the telly wherever they live.
As for supporting your country, well, just look at the threads on here during a competition..not much support at all
Perhaps that is what you and others would like to think.
Personally I find it grossly insulting that you seem to suggest that MANCHESTER City does not represent Manchester - as would most football fans if you suggested a similar thing about other teams.
As I've already stated, this is an 'opinion' that only really has a growing popularity in football.
The reason that this nonsense (cos it is nonsense) opinion that football clubs don't represent the areas they are from gains some (incorrect) credibility in the mind of some is football is that football contains two groups that aren't anywhere near as prevalent in other sports.
a) football has attracted many more gloryhunters than other sports, who have pushed all sorts of reasons to disguise their gloryhunting over the last 20 years
b) football has clubs that are 100 times more aggressive and interested in exploiting and getting money out of shallow gloryhunters and therefore encourages them more than any other sport.
You cannot back up the opinion that 'football clubs don't represent areas' with anything like serious argument because the 'argument' (if you can even call it that) is based only on the aims of the two groups mentioned above.
(PS: what would be your opinion of City moving their ground to London or Cornwall if they determined it was more economically viable? Presumably it would be a good thing, given that they do not represent Manchester, in your opinion)